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From: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hpe.com>
To: "Eric Dumazet" <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	"Bendik Rønning Opstad" <bro.devel@gmail.com>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, "Yuchung Cheng" <ycheng@google.com>,
	"Neal Cardwell" <ncardwell@google.com>,
	"Andreas Petlund" <apetlund@simula.no>,
	"Carsten Griwodz" <griff@simula.no>,
	"Pål Halvorsen" <paalh@simula.no>,
	"Jonas Markussen" <jonassm@ifi.uio.no>,
	"Kristian Evensen" <kristian.evensen@gmail.com>,
	"Kenneth Klette Jonassen" <kennetkl@ifi.uio.no>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 net-next 2/2] tcp: Add Redundant Data Bundling (RDB)
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 18:04:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56E75F8B.7090101@hpe.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1457990140.31401.20.camel@edumazet-glaptop3.roam.corp.google.com>

On 03/14/2016 02:15 PM, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Thu, 2016-03-03 at 19:06 +0100, Bendik Rønning Opstad wrote:
>> Redundant Data Bundling (RDB) is a mechanism for TCP aimed at reducing
>> the latency for applications sending time-dependent data.
>>
>> Latency-sensitive applications or services, such as online games,
>> remote control systems, and VoIP, produce traffic with thin-stream
>> characteristics, characterized by small packets and relatively high
>> inter-transmission times (ITT). When experiencing packet loss, such
>> latency-sensitive applications are heavily penalized by the need to
>> retransmit lost packets, which increases the latency by a minimum of
>> one RTT for the lost packet. Packets coming after a lost packet are
>> held back due to head-of-line blocking, causing increased delays for
>> all data segments until the lost packet has been retransmitted.
>
> Acked-by: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
>
> Note that RDB probably should get some SNMP counters,
> so that we get an idea of how many times a loss could be repaired.

And some idea of the duplication seen by receivers, assuming there isn't 
already a counter for such a thing in Linux.

happy benchmarking,

rick jones

>
> Ideally, if the path happens to be lossless, all these pro active
> bundles are overhead. Might be useful to make RDB conditional to
> tp->total_retrans or something.
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-15  1:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-23 20:50 [PATCH RFC net-next 0/2] tcp: Redundant Data Bundling (RDB) Bendik Rønning Opstad
2015-10-23 20:50 ` Bendik Rønning Opstad
2015-10-23 20:50 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 1/2] tcp: Add DPIFL thin stream detection mechanism Bendik Rønning Opstad
2015-10-23 20:50   ` Bendik Rønning Opstad
2015-10-23 21:44   ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-23 21:44     ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-25  5:56     ` Bendik Rønning Opstad
2015-10-25  5:56       ` Bendik Rønning Opstad
2015-10-23 20:50 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 2/2] tcp: Add Redundant Data Bundling (RDB) Bendik Rønning Opstad
2015-10-23 20:50   ` Bendik Rønning Opstad
2015-10-26 14:50   ` Neal Cardwell
2015-10-26 14:50     ` Neal Cardwell
2015-10-26 21:35     ` Andreas Petlund
2015-10-26 21:35       ` Andreas Petlund
2015-10-26 21:58       ` Yuchung Cheng
2015-10-26 21:58         ` Yuchung Cheng
2015-10-27 19:15         ` Jonas Markussen
2015-10-27 19:15           ` Jonas Markussen
2015-10-29 22:53         ` Bendik Rønning Opstad
2015-10-29 22:53           ` Bendik Rønning Opstad
2015-11-02  9:18           ` David Laight
2015-11-02  9:18             ` David Laight
2015-11-02  9:37   ` David Laight
2015-11-02  9:37     ` David Laight
2015-11-05  2:06     ` Bendik Rønning Opstad
2015-11-05  2:06       ` Bendik Rønning Opstad
2015-11-05  2:06       ` Bendik Rønning Opstad
2015-10-24  6:11 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 0/2] tcp: " Yuchung Cheng
2015-10-24  6:11   ` Yuchung Cheng
2015-10-24  6:11   ` Yuchung Cheng
2015-10-24  8:00   ` Jonas Markussen
2015-10-24  8:00     ` Jonas Markussen
2015-10-24 12:57     ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-24 12:57       ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-09 19:40       ` Bendik Rønning Opstad
2015-11-23 16:26 ` [PATCH RFC v2 " Bendik Rønning Opstad
2015-11-23 16:26 ` [PATCH RFC v2 net-next 1/2] tcp: Add DPIFL thin stream detection mechanism Bendik Rønning Opstad
2015-11-23 16:26 ` [PATCH RFC v2 net-next 2/2] tcp: Add Redundant Data Bundling (RDB) Bendik Rønning Opstad
2015-11-23 17:43   ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-23 20:05     ` Bendik Rønning Opstad
2016-02-02 19:23 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 0/2] tcp: " Bendik Rønning Opstad
2016-02-02 19:23 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 1/2] tcp: Add DPIFL thin stream detection mechanism Bendik Rønning Opstad
2016-02-02 19:23 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 2/2] tcp: Add Redundant Data Bundling (RDB) Bendik Rønning Opstad
2016-02-02 20:35   ` Eric Dumazet
2016-02-03 18:17     ` Bendik Rønning Opstad
2016-02-03 19:34       ` Eric Dumazet
     [not found]         ` <CAF8eE=VOuoNLQHtkRwM9ZG+vJ-uH2ufVW5y_pS24rGqWh4Qa2g@mail.gmail.com>
2016-02-08 17:30           ` Bendik Rønning Opstad
2016-02-08 17:38         ` Bendik Rønning Opstad
2016-02-16 13:51 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 0/2] tcp: " Bendik Rønning Opstad
2016-02-16 13:51 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 1/2] tcp: Add DPIFL thin stream detection mechanism Bendik Rønning Opstad
2016-02-16 13:51 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 2/2] tcp: Add Redundant Data Bundling (RDB) Bendik Rønning Opstad
2016-02-18 15:18   ` Eric Dumazet
2016-02-19 14:12     ` Bendik Rønning Opstad
2016-02-24 21:12 ` [PATCH v5 net-next 0/2] tcp: " Bendik Rønning Opstad
2016-02-24 21:12 ` [PATCH v5 net-next 1/2] tcp: Add DPIFL thin stream detection mechanism Bendik Rønning Opstad
2016-02-24 21:12 ` [PATCH v5 net-next 2/2] tcp: Add Redundant Data Bundling (RDB) Bendik Rønning Opstad
2016-03-02 19:52   ` David Miller
2016-03-02 22:33     ` Bendik Rønning Opstad
2016-03-03 18:06 ` [PATCH v6 net-next 0/2] tcp: " Bendik Rønning Opstad
2016-03-07 19:36   ` David Miller
2016-03-10  0:20   ` Yuchung Cheng
2016-03-10  1:45     ` Jonas Markussen
2016-03-10  2:27       ` Yuchung Cheng
2016-03-12  9:23         ` Jonas Markussen
2016-03-13 23:18     ` Bendik Rønning Opstad
2016-03-14 21:59       ` Yuchung Cheng
2016-03-18 14:25         ` Bendik Rønning Opstad
2016-03-03 18:06 ` [PATCH v6 net-next 1/2] tcp: Add DPIFL thin stream detection mechanism Bendik Rønning Opstad
2016-03-03 18:06 ` [PATCH v6 net-next 2/2] tcp: Add Redundant Data Bundling (RDB) Bendik Rønning Opstad
2016-03-14 21:15   ` Eric Dumazet
2016-03-15  1:04     ` Rick Jones [this message]
2016-03-15 18:09       ` Yuchung Cheng
2016-03-18 17:58     ` Bendik Rønning Opstad
2016-03-14 21:54   ` Yuchung Cheng
2016-03-15  0:40     ` Bill Fink
2016-03-17 23:26     ` Bendik Rønning Opstad
2016-03-21 18:54       ` Yuchung Cheng
2016-06-16 17:12         ` Bendik Rønning Opstad
2016-06-22 14:56 ` [PATCH v7 net-next 0/2] tcp: " Bendik Rønning Opstad
2016-06-22 14:56 ` [PATCH v7 net-next 1/2] tcp: Add DPIFL thin stream detection mechanism Bendik Rønning Opstad
2016-06-22 14:56 ` [PATCH v7 net-next 2/2] tcp: Add Redundant Data Bundling (RDB) Bendik Rønning Opstad

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