Re: [CI-ping 15/15] drm/i915: Late request cancellations are harmful

[John Harrison <John.C.Harrison@Intel.com>]

On 19/04/2016 13:35, Dave Gordon wrote:
> On 13/04/16 15:21, John Harrison wrote:
>> On 13/04/2016 10:57, Daniel Vetter wrote:
>>> On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 09:03:09PM +0100, Chris Wilson wrote:
>>>> Conceptually, each request is a record of a hardware transaction - we
>>>> build up a list of pending commands and then either commit them to
>>>> hardware, or cancel them. However, whilst building up the list of
>>>> pending commands, we may modify state outside of the request and make
>>>> references to the pending request. If we do so and then cancel that
>>>> request, external objects then point to the deleted request leading to
>>>> both graphical and memory corruption.
>>>>
>>>> The easiest example is to consider object/VMA tracking. When we 
>>>> mark an
>>>> object as active in a request, we store a pointer to this, the most
>>>> recent request, in the object. Then we want to free that object, we 
>>>> wait
>>>> for the most recent request to be idle before proceeding (otherwise 
>>>> the
>>>> hardware will write to pages now owned by the system, or we will 
>>>> attempt
>>>> to read from those pages before the hardware is finished writing). If
>>>> the request was cancelled instead, that wait completes immediately. 
>>>> As a
>>>> result, all requests must be committed and not cancelled if the 
>>>> external
>>>> state is unknown.
>>>>
>>>> All that remains of i915_gem_request_cancel() users are just a 
>>>> couple of
>>>> extremely unlikely allocation failures, so remove the API entirely.
>>>>
>>>> A consequence of committing all incomplete requests is that we 
>>>> generate
>>>> excess breadcrumbs and fill the ring much more often with dummy 
>>>> work. We
>>>> have completely undone the outstanding_last_seqno optimisation.
>>>>
>>>> Bugzilla: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93907
>>>> Signed-off-by: Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>
>>>> Cc: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>
>>>> Cc: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@linux.intel.com>
>>>> Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
>>> Cc: John Harrison <John.C.Harrison@Intel.com>
>>>
>>> I'd like John's ack on this on too, but patch itself looks sound. Fast
>>> r-b
>>> since we've discussed this a while ago already ...
>>
>> I think this is going to cause a problem with the scheduler. You are
>> effectively saying that the execbuf call cannot fail beyond the point of
>> allocating a request. If it gets that far then it must go all the way
>> and submit the request to the hardware. With a scheduler, that means
>> adding it to the scheduler's queues and tracking it all the way through
>> the system to completion. If nothing else, that sounds like a lot of
>> extra overhead for no actual work. Or worse if the failure is at a point
>> where the request cannot be sent further through the system because it
>> was something critical that failed then you are really stuffed.
>>
>> I'm not sure what the other option would be though, short of being able
>> to undo the last read/write object tracking updates.
>
> With the chained-ownership code we have in the scheduler, it becomes 
> perfectly possible to undo the last-read/write tracking changes.
>
> I'd much rather see any failure during submission rewound and undone, 
> so we can just return -EAGAIN at any point and let someone retry if 
> required.
>
> This just looks like a hack to work around not having a properly 
> transactional model of request submission :(
>
> .Dave.

I was thinking if it would be possible to delay the tracking updates 
until later in the execbuf process. I.e. only do it after all potential 
failure points. That would be a much simpler change than putting in 
chained ownership.

However, it seems that the patch has already been merged despite this 
discussion and Daniel Vetter wanting an ack first? Is that correct?

John.

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