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From: "Hunt, David" <david.hunt@intel.com>
To: Jerin Jacob <jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org, olivier.matz@6wind.com,
	yuanhan.liu@linux.intel.com, pmatilai@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/3] mempool: support external handler
Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 16:37:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <574DAF9E.7060404@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160531085258.GA8030@localhost.localdomain>



On 5/31/2016 9:53 AM, Jerin Jacob wrote:
> On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 12:27:26PM +0100, Hunt, David wrote:
>> New mempool handlers will use rte_mempool_create_empty(),
>> rte_mempool_set_handler(),
>> then rte_mempool_populate_*(). These three functions are new to this
>> release, to no problem
> Having separate APIs for external pool-manager create is worrisome in
> application perspective. Is it possible to have rte_mempool_[xmem]_create
> for the both external and existing SW pool manager and make
> rte_mempool_create_empty and rte_mempool_populate_*  internal functions.
>
> IMO, We can do that by selecting  specific rte_mempool_set_handler()
> based on _flags_ encoding, something like below
>
> bit 0 - 16   // generic bits uses across all the pool managers
> bit 16 - 23  // pool handler specific flags bits
> bit 24 - 31  // to select the specific pool manager(Up to 256 different flavors of
> pool managers, For backward compatibility, make '0'(in 24-31) to select
> existing SW pool manager.
>
> and applications can choose the handlers by selecting the flag in
> rte_mempool_[xmem]_create, That way it will be easy in testpmd or any other
> applications to choose the pool handler from command line etc in future.

There might be issues with the 8-bit handler number, as we'd have to add 
an api call to
first get the index of a given hander by name, then OR it into the 
flags. That would mean
also extra API calls for the non-default external handlers. I do agree 
with the handler-specific
bits though.

Having the _empty and _set_handler  APIs seems to me to be OK for the
moment. Maybe Olivier could comment?

> and we can remove "mbuf: get default mempool handler from configuration"
> change-set OR just add if RTE_MBUF_DEFAULT_MEMPOOL_HANDLER is defined then set
> the same with rte_mempool_set_handler in rte_mempool_[xmem]_create.
>
> What do you think?

The "configuration" patch is to allow users to quickly change the 
mempool handler
by changing RTE_MBUF_DEFAULT_MEMPOOL_HANDLER to another string of a known
handler. It could just as easily be left out and use the 
rte_mempool_create.

>> to add a parameter to one of them for the config data. Also since we're
>> adding some new
>> elements to the mempool structure, how about we add a new pointer for a void
>> pointer to a
>> config data structure, as defined by the handler.
>>
>> So, new element in rte_mempool struct alongside the *pool
>>      void *pool;
>>      void *pool_config;
>>
>> Then add a param to the rte_mempool_set_handler function:
>> int
>> rte_mempool_set_handler(struct rte_mempool *mp, const char *name, void
>> *pool_config)
> IMO, Maybe we need to have _set_ and _get_.So I think we can have
> two separate callback in external pool-manger for that if required.
> IMO, For now, We can live with pool manager specific 8 bits(bit 16 -23)
> for the configuration as mentioned above and add the new callbacks for
> set and get when required?

OK, We'll keep the config to the 8 bits of the flags for now. That will 
also mean I won't
add the pool_config void pointer either (for the moment)

>>> 2) IMO, It is better to change void *pool in struct rte_mempool to
>>> anonymous union type, something like below, so that mempool
>>> implementation can choose the best type.
>>> 	union {
>>> 		void *pool;
>>> 		uint64_t val;
>>> 	}
>> Could we do this by using the union for the *pool_config suggested above,
>> would that give
>> you what you need?
> It would be an extra overhead for external pool manager to _alloc_ memory
> and store the allocated pointer in mempool struct(as *pool) and use pool for
> pointing other data structures as some implementation need only
> limited bytes to store the external pool manager specific context.
>
> In order to fix this problem, We may classify fast path and slow path
> elements in struct rte_mempool and move all fast path elements in first
> cache line and create an empty opaque space in the remaining bytes in the
> cache line so that if the external pool manager needs only limited space
> then it is not required to allocate the separate memory to save the
> per core cache  in fast-path
>
> something like below,
> union {
> 	void *pool;
> 	uint64_t val;
> 	uint8_t extra_mem[16] // available free bytes in fast path cache line
>
> }

Something for the future, perhaps? Will the 8-bits in the flags suffice 
for now?


> Other points,
>
> 1) Is it possible to remove unused is_mp in  __mempool_put_bulk
> function as it is just a internal function.

Fixed

> 2) Considering "get" and "put" are the fast-path callbacks for
> pool-manger, Is it possible to avoid the extra overhead of the following
> _load_ and additional cache line on each call,
> rte_mempool_handler_table.handler[handler_idx]
>
> I understand it is for multiprocess support but I am thing can we
> introduce something like ethernet API support for multiprocess and
> resolve "put" and "get" functions pointer on init and store in
> struct mempool. Some thinking like
>
> file: drivers/net/ixgbe/ixgbe_ethdev.c
> search for if (rte_eal_process_type() != RTE_PROC_PRIMARY) {

I'll look at this one before posting the next version of the patch 
(soon). :)


> Jerin
>
Thanks for your input on this, much appreciated.
Dave.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-31 15:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 238+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-26 17:25 [PATCH 0/5] add external mempool manager David Hunt
2016-01-26 17:25 ` [PATCH 1/5] mempool: add external mempool manager support David Hunt
2016-01-28 17:52   ` Jerin Jacob
2016-02-03 14:16     ` Hunt, David
2016-02-04 13:23       ` Jerin Jacob
2016-02-04 14:52   ` Olivier MATZ
2016-02-04 16:47     ` Hunt, David
2016-02-08 11:02       ` Olivier MATZ
2016-02-04 17:34     ` Hunt, David
2016-02-05  9:26       ` Olivier MATZ
2016-03-01 13:32     ` Hunt, David
2016-03-04  9:05       ` Olivier MATZ
2016-03-08 10:04         ` Hunt, David
2016-01-26 17:25 ` [PATCH 2/5] memool: add stack (lifo) based external mempool handler David Hunt
2016-02-04 15:02   ` Olivier MATZ
2016-01-26 17:25 ` [PATCH 3/5] mempool: add custom external mempool handler example David Hunt
2016-01-28 17:54   ` Jerin Jacob
2016-01-26 17:25 ` [PATCH 4/5] mempool: add autotest for external mempool custom example David Hunt
2016-01-26 17:25 ` [PATCH 5/5] mempool: allow rte_pktmbuf_pool_create switch between memool handlers David Hunt
2016-02-05 10:11   ` Olivier MATZ
2016-01-28 17:26 ` [PATCH 0/5] add external mempool manager Jerin Jacob
2016-01-29 13:40   ` Hunt, David
2016-01-29 17:16     ` Jerin Jacob
2016-02-16 14:48 ` [PATCH 0/6] " David Hunt
2016-02-16 14:48   ` [PATCH 1/6] mempool: add external mempool manager support David Hunt
2016-02-16 19:27     ` [dpdk-dev, " Jan Viktorin
2016-02-19 13:30     ` [PATCH " Olivier MATZ
2016-02-29 11:11       ` Hunt, David
2016-03-04  9:04         ` Olivier MATZ
2016-02-16 14:48   ` [PATCH 2/6] mempool: add stack (lifo) based external mempool handler David Hunt
2016-02-19 13:31     ` Olivier MATZ
2016-02-29 11:04       ` Hunt, David
2016-03-04  9:04         ` Olivier MATZ
2016-03-08 20:45       ` Venkatesan, Venky
2016-03-09 14:53         ` Olivier MATZ
2016-02-16 14:48   ` [PATCH 3/6] mempool: adds a simple ring-based mempool handler using mallocs for objects David Hunt
2016-02-16 14:48   ` [PATCH 4/6] mempool: add autotest for external mempool custom example David Hunt
2016-02-16 14:48   ` [PATCH 5/6] mempool: allow rte_pktmbuf_pool_create switch between memool handlers David Hunt
2016-02-16 14:48   ` [PATCH 6/6] mempool: add in the RTE_NEXT_ABI protection for ABI breakages David Hunt
2016-02-19 13:33     ` Olivier MATZ
2016-02-19 13:25   ` [PATCH 0/6] external mempool manager Olivier MATZ
2016-02-29 10:55     ` Hunt, David
2016-03-09  9:50   ` [PATCH v3 0/4] " David Hunt
2016-03-09  9:50     ` [PATCH v3 1/4] mempool: add external mempool manager support David Hunt
2016-04-11 22:52       ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-03-09  9:50     ` [PATCH v3 2/4] mempool: add custom mempool handler example David Hunt
2016-03-09  9:50     ` [PATCH v3 3/4] mempool: allow rte_pktmbuf_pool_create switch between memool handlers David Hunt
2016-03-09 10:54       ` Panu Matilainen
2016-03-09 11:38         ` Hunt, David
2016-03-09 11:44           ` Panu Matilainen
2016-03-09  9:50     ` [PATCH v3 4/4] mempool: add in the RTE_NEXT_ABI for ABI breakages David Hunt
2016-03-09 10:46       ` Panu Matilainen
2016-03-09 11:30         ` Hunt, David
2016-03-09 14:59           ` Olivier MATZ
2016-03-09 16:28             ` Hunt, David
2016-03-09 16:31               ` Olivier MATZ
2016-03-09 16:39                 ` Hunt, David
2016-03-09 11:10     ` [PATCH v3 0/4] external mempool manager Hunt, David
2016-04-11 22:46     ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-04-14 13:57     ` [PATCH v4 0/3] " Olivier Matz
2016-04-14 13:57       ` [PATCH v4 1/3] mempool: support external handler Olivier Matz
2016-04-14 13:57       ` [PATCH v4 2/3] app/test: test external mempool handler Olivier Matz
2016-04-14 13:57       ` [PATCH v4 3/3] mbuf: get default mempool handler from configuration Olivier Matz
2016-05-19 13:44       ` mempool: external mempool manager David Hunt
2016-05-19 13:44         ` [PATCH v5 1/3] mempool: support external handler David Hunt
2016-05-23 12:35           ` [dpdk-dev,v5,1/3] " Jan Viktorin
2016-05-24 14:04             ` Hunt, David
2016-05-31  9:09             ` Hunt, David
2016-05-31 12:06               ` Jan Viktorin
2016-05-31 13:47                 ` Hunt, David
2016-05-31 20:40                   ` Olivier MATZ
2016-06-01  9:39                     ` Hunt, David
2016-06-01 12:30                     ` Jan Viktorin
2016-05-24 15:35           ` [PATCH v5 1/3] " Jerin Jacob
2016-05-27  9:52             ` Hunt, David
2016-05-27 10:33               ` Jerin Jacob
2016-05-27 14:44                 ` Hunt, David
2016-05-30  9:41                   ` Jerin Jacob
2016-05-30 11:27                     ` Hunt, David
2016-05-31  8:53                       ` Jerin Jacob
2016-05-31 15:37                         ` Hunt, David [this message]
2016-05-31 16:03                           ` Jerin Jacob
2016-05-31 20:41                             ` Olivier MATZ
2016-05-31 21:11                               ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-01 10:46                                 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-01 11:18                                   ` Jerin Jacob
2016-05-19 13:45         ` [PATCH v5 2/3] app/test: test external mempool handler David Hunt
2016-05-23 12:45           ` [dpdk-dev, v5, " Jan Viktorin
2016-05-31  9:17             ` Hunt, David
2016-05-31 12:14               ` Jan Viktorin
2016-05-31 20:40                 ` Olivier MATZ
2016-05-19 13:45         ` [PATCH v5 3/3] mbuf: get default mempool handler from configuration David Hunt
2016-05-23 12:40           ` [dpdk-dev, v5, " Jan Viktorin
2016-05-31  9:26             ` Hunt, David
2016-06-01 16:19         ` [PATCH v6 0/5] mempool: add external mempool manager David Hunt
2016-06-01 16:19           ` [PATCH v6 1/5] mempool: support external handler David Hunt
2016-06-01 16:29             ` Hunt, David
2016-06-01 17:54             ` Jan Viktorin
2016-06-02  9:11               ` Hunt, David
2016-06-02 11:23               ` Hunt, David
2016-06-02 13:43                 ` Jan Viktorin
2016-06-01 16:19           ` [PATCH v6 2/5] mempool: remove rte_ring from rte_mempool struct David Hunt
2016-06-01 16:19           ` [PATCH v6 3/5] mempool: add default external mempool handler David Hunt
2016-06-01 16:19           ` [PATCH v6 4/5] app/test: test " David Hunt
2016-06-01 16:19           ` [PATCH v6 5/5] mbuf: get default mempool handler from configuration David Hunt
2016-06-02 13:27           ` [PATCH v7 0/5] mempool: add external mempool manager David Hunt
2016-06-02 13:27             ` [PATCH v7 1/5] mempool: support external mempool operations David Hunt
2016-06-02 13:38               ` [PATCH v7 0/5] mempool: add external mempool manager Hunt, David
2016-06-03  6:38               ` [PATCH v7 1/5] mempool: support external mempool operations Jerin Jacob
2016-06-03 10:28                 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-03 10:49                   ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-03 11:07                   ` Olivier MATZ
2016-06-03 11:42                     ` Jan Viktorin
2016-06-03 12:10                     ` Hunt, David
2016-06-03 12:28               ` Olivier MATZ
2016-06-02 13:27             ` [PATCH v7 2/5] mempool: remove rte_ring from rte_mempool struct David Hunt
2016-06-03 12:28               ` Olivier MATZ
2016-06-03 14:17                 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-02 13:27             ` [PATCH v7 3/5] mempool: add default external mempool ops David Hunt
2016-06-02 13:27             ` [PATCH v7 4/5] app/test: test external mempool manager David Hunt
2016-06-02 13:27             ` [PATCH v7 5/5] mbuf: allow apps to change default mempool ops David Hunt
2016-06-03 12:28               ` Olivier MATZ
2016-06-03 14:06                 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-03 14:10                   ` Olivier Matz
2016-06-03 14:14                     ` Hunt, David
2016-06-03 14:58             ` [PATCH v8 0/5] mempool: add external mempool manager David Hunt
2016-06-03 14:58               ` [PATCH v8 1/3] mempool: support external mempool operations David Hunt
2016-06-06 14:32                 ` Shreyansh Jain
2016-06-06 14:38                 ` Shreyansh Jain
2016-06-07  9:25                   ` Hunt, David
2016-06-08 13:48                     ` Shreyansh Jain
2016-06-09  9:39                       ` Hunt, David
2016-06-09 10:31                         ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-09 11:06                           ` Hunt, David
2016-06-09 11:49                           ` Shreyansh Jain
2016-06-09 12:30                             ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-09 13:03                               ` Shreyansh Jain
2016-06-09 13:18                               ` Hunt, David
2016-06-09 13:37                                 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-09 11:41                         ` Shreyansh Jain
2016-06-09 12:55                           ` Hunt, David
2016-06-09 13:09                         ` Jan Viktorin
2016-06-10  7:29                           ` Olivier Matz
2016-06-10  8:49                             ` Jan Viktorin
2016-06-10  9:02                               ` Hunt, David
2016-06-10  9:34                             ` Hunt, David
2016-06-10 11:29                               ` Shreyansh Jain
2016-06-10 11:13                             ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-10 11:37                             ` Shreyansh Jain
2016-06-07  9:05                 ` Shreyansh Jain
2016-06-08 12:13                 ` Olivier Matz
2016-06-09 10:33                   ` Hunt, David
2016-06-08 14:28                 ` Shreyansh Jain
2016-06-03 14:58               ` [PATCH v8 2/3] app/test: test external mempool manager David Hunt
2016-06-03 14:58               ` [PATCH v8 3/3] mbuf: make default mempool ops configurable at build David Hunt
2016-06-10 15:16               ` [PATCH v9 0/3] mempool: add external mempool manager David Hunt
2016-06-10 15:16                 ` [PATCH v9 1/3] mempool: support external mempool operations David Hunt
2016-06-13 12:16                   ` Olivier Matz
2016-06-13 13:46                     ` Hunt, David
2016-06-10 15:16                 ` [PATCH v9 2/3] app/test: test external mempool manager David Hunt
2016-06-10 15:16                 ` [PATCH v9 3/3] mbuf: make default mempool ops configurable at build David Hunt
2016-06-14  9:46                 ` [PATCH v10 0/3] mempool: add external mempool manager David Hunt
2016-06-14  9:46                   ` [PATCH v10 1/3] mempool: support external mempool operations David Hunt
2016-06-14 11:38                     ` Shreyansh Jain
2016-06-14 12:55                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-14 13:20                       ` Hunt, David
2016-06-14 13:29                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-14  9:46                   ` [PATCH v10 2/3] app/test: test external mempool manager David Hunt
2016-06-14 11:39                     ` Shreyansh Jain
2016-06-14  9:46                   ` [PATCH v10 3/3] mbuf: make default mempool ops configurable at build David Hunt
2016-06-14 11:45                     ` Shreyansh Jain
2016-06-14 12:32                   ` [PATCH v10 0/3] mempool: add external mempool manager Olivier MATZ
2016-06-14 15:48                   ` [PATCH v11 " David Hunt
2016-06-14 15:48                     ` [PATCH v11 1/3] mempool: support external mempool operations David Hunt
2016-06-14 16:08                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-14 15:49                     ` [PATCH v11 2/3] app/test: test external mempool manager David Hunt
2016-06-14 15:49                     ` [PATCH v11 3/3] mbuf: make default mempool ops configurable at build David Hunt
2016-06-15  7:47                     ` [PATCH v12 0/3] mempool: add external mempool manager David Hunt
2016-06-15  7:47                       ` [PATCH v12 1/3] mempool: support external mempool operations David Hunt
2016-06-15 10:14                         ` Jan Viktorin
2016-06-15 10:29                           ` Hunt, David
2016-06-15 11:26                             ` Jan Viktorin
2016-06-15 11:38                             ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-15  7:47                       ` [PATCH v12 2/3] app/test: test external mempool manager David Hunt
2016-06-15  7:47                       ` [PATCH v12 3/3] mbuf: make default mempool ops configurable at build David Hunt
2016-06-15 10:13                       ` [PATCH v12 0/3] mempool: add external mempool manager Jan Viktorin
2016-06-15 11:47                         ` Hunt, David
2016-06-15 12:03                           ` Olivier MATZ
2016-06-15 12:38                             ` Hunt, David
2016-06-15 13:50                               ` Olivier MATZ
2016-06-15 14:02                                 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-15 14:10                                   ` Olivier MATZ
2016-06-15 14:47                                     ` Jan Viktorin
2016-06-15 16:03                                       ` Hunt, David
2016-06-15 16:34                             ` Hunt, David
2016-06-15 16:40                               ` Olivier MATZ
2016-06-16  4:35                                 ` Shreyansh Jain
2016-06-16  7:04                                   ` Hunt, David
2016-06-16  7:47                                 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-16  8:47                                   ` Olivier MATZ
2016-06-16  8:55                                     ` Hunt, David
2016-06-16  8:58                                       ` Olivier MATZ
2016-06-16 11:34                                         ` Hunt, David
2016-06-16 12:30                       ` [PATCH v13 " David Hunt
2016-06-16 12:30                         ` [PATCH v13 1/3] mempool: support external mempool operations David Hunt
2016-06-17  6:58                           ` Hunt, David
2016-06-17  8:08                             ` Olivier Matz
2016-06-17  8:42                               ` Hunt, David
2016-06-17  9:09                                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-17  9:24                                   ` Hunt, David
2016-06-17 10:19                                     ` Olivier Matz
2016-06-17 10:18                           ` Olivier Matz
2016-06-17 10:47                             ` Hunt, David
2016-06-16 12:30                         ` [PATCH v13 2/3] app/test: test external mempool manager David Hunt
2016-06-16 12:30                         ` [PATCH v13 3/3] mbuf: make default mempool ops configurable at build David Hunt
2016-06-17 13:53                         ` [PATCH v14 0/3] mempool: add mempool handler feature David Hunt
2016-06-17 13:53                           ` [PATCH v14 1/3] mempool: support mempool handler operations David Hunt
2016-06-17 14:35                             ` Jan Viktorin
2016-06-19 11:44                               ` Hunt, David
2016-06-17 13:53                           ` [PATCH v14 2/3] app/test: test mempool handler David Hunt
2016-06-17 14:37                             ` Jan Viktorin
2016-06-17 13:53                           ` [PATCH v14 3/3] mbuf: make default mempool ops configurable at build David Hunt
2016-06-17 14:41                             ` Jan Viktorin
2016-06-19 12:05                           ` [PATCH v15 0/3] mempool: add mempool handler feature David Hunt
2016-06-19 12:05                             ` [PATCH v15 1/3] mempool: support mempool handler operations David Hunt
2016-06-19 12:05                             ` [PATCH v15 2/3] app/test: test mempool handler David Hunt
2016-06-19 12:05                             ` [PATCH v15 3/3] mbuf: make default mempool ops configurable at build David Hunt
2016-06-22  7:56                             ` [PATCH v15 0/3] mempool: add mempool handler feature Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-22  8:02                               ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-22  9:27                             ` [PATCH v16 " David Hunt
2016-06-22  9:27                               ` [PATCH v16 1/3] mempool: support mempool handler operations David Hunt
2016-06-22  9:27                               ` [PATCH v16 2/3] app/test: test mempool handler David Hunt
2016-06-22  9:27                               ` [PATCH v16 3/3] mbuf: make default mempool ops configurable at build David Hunt
2016-06-23 21:22                               ` [PATCH v16 0/3] mempool: add mempool handler feature Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-24  4:55                                 ` Wiles, Keith
2016-06-24 11:20                                   ` Jan Viktorin
2016-06-24 11:24                                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-24 13:10                                       ` Jan Viktorin

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