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From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: "Denis V. Lunev" <den@openvz.org>,
	Pavel Butsykin <pbutsykin@virtuozzo.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, Jeff Cody <jcody@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/10] qcow2: add qcow2_co_write_compressed
Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 15:13:36 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <574DFE80.9030802@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <574DFB7D.6010205@openvz.org>

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On 05/31/2016 03:00 PM, Denis V. Lunev wrote:
> On 05/31/2016 09:42 PM, Eric Blake wrote:
>> On 05/30/2016 06:58 AM, Pavel Butsykin wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry, but it seems this will never happen, because the second write
>>> will not pass this check:
>>>
>>> uint64_t qcow2_alloc_compressed_cluster_offset(BlockDriverState *bs,
>>>                                                 uint64_t offset,
>>>                                                 int compressed_size)
>>> {
>>>      ...
>>>      /* Compression can't overwrite anything. Fail if the cluster was
>>> already
>>>       * allocated. */
>>>      cluster_offset = be64_to_cpu(l2_table[l2_index]);
>>>      if (cluster_offset & L2E_OFFSET_MASK) {
>>>          qcow2_cache_put(bs, s->l2_table_cache, (void**) &l2_table);
>>>          return 0;
>>>      }
>>>     ...
>>>
>>> As you can see we can't do the compressed write in the already allocated
>>> cluster.
>> Umm, doesn't that defeat the point of compression, if every compressed
>> cluster becomes the head of a new cluster?  The whole goal of
>> compression is to be able to fit multiple clusters within one.
>>
> AFAIK the file will be sparse in that unused areas

IIRC, on the NTFS file system, the minimum hole size is 64k. If you also
have 64k clusters, then you don't have a sparse file - every tail of
zero sectors will be explicit in the filesystem, if you are using 1:1
clusters for compression.  Other file systems may have finer granularity
for holes, but it's still rather awkward to be relying on sparseness
when a better solution is to pack compressed sectors consecutively.

-- 
Eric Blake   eblake redhat com    +1-919-301-3266
Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org


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  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-31 21:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-14 12:45 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/10] backup compression Denis V. Lunev
2016-05-14 12:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/10] block/io: add bdrv_co_write_compressed Denis V. Lunev
2016-05-16 16:52   ` Eric Blake
2016-05-17 15:01     ` Pavel Butsykin
2016-05-19 21:25   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-05-19 21:39     ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-05-14 12:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/10] qcow2: add qcow2_co_write_compressed Denis V. Lunev
2016-05-27 17:33   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-05-30  9:12     ` Pavel Butsykin
2016-05-30 12:58       ` Pavel Butsykin
2016-05-31 18:42         ` Eric Blake
2016-05-31 21:00           ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-05-31 21:13             ` Eric Blake [this message]
2016-06-01  9:53               ` Pavel Butsykin
2016-06-01  9:31           ` Kevin Wolf
2016-06-01  9:25     ` Kevin Wolf
2016-06-01 20:06       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-05-14 12:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/10] vmdk: add vmdk_co_write_compressed Denis V. Lunev
2016-05-27 17:38   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-05-14 12:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/10] qcow: add qcow_co_write_compressed Denis V. Lunev
2016-05-27 17:45   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-05-30 14:27     ` Pavel Butsykin
2016-05-14 12:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/10] block: remove BlockDriver.bdrv_write_compressed Denis V. Lunev
2016-05-16 16:57   ` Eric Blake
2016-05-17 12:22     ` Pavel Butsykin
2016-05-14 12:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/10] drive-backup: added support for data compression Denis V. Lunev
2016-05-16 16:59   ` Eric Blake
2016-05-27 17:56   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-05-14 12:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/10] blockdev-backup: " Denis V. Lunev
2016-05-16 17:00   ` Eric Blake
2016-05-27 17:57   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-05-14 12:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/10] qemu-iotests: test backup compression in 055 Denis V. Lunev
2016-05-14 12:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/10] block: fix backup in vmdk format image Denis V. Lunev
2016-05-27 18:01   ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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