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From: Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>
To: Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xen.org
Cc: Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	wei.liu2@citrix.com, andrew.cooper3@citrix.com,
	ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com, zhaoshenglong@huawei.com,
	roger.pau@citrix.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 20/20] libxl/acpi: Build ACPI tables for HVMlite guests
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 16:12:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <577E7160.6020200@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <62de2f69-e26e-b9bc-6333-e4ef2ad7b5b2@oracle.com>



On 07/07/16 16:08, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
> On 07/07/2016 04:38 AM, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>> On 06.07.16 at 19:33, <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com> wrote:
>>> On 07/06/2016 01:03 PM, Julien Grall wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 06/07/16 17:30, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
>>>>> On 07/06/2016 12:04 PM, Julien Grall wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Boris,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 06/07/16 16:50, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
>>>>>>> On 07/06/2016 07:05 AM, Julien Grall wrote:
>>>>>>>>> +static int populate_acpi_pages(struct xc_dom_image *dom,
>>>>>>>>> +                               xen_pfn_t *extents,
>>>>>>>>> +                               unsigned int num_pages,
>>>>>>>>> +                               struct acpi_ctxt *ctxt)
>>>>>>>>> +{
>>>>>>>>> +    int rc;
>>>>>>>>> +    xc_interface *xch = dom->xch;
>>>>>>>>> +    uint32_t domid = dom->guest_domid;
>>>>>>>>> +    unsigned long idx, first_high_idx = (1ull << (32 -
>>>>>>>>> ctxt->page_shift));
>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>> +    for (; num_pages; num_pages--, extents++) {
>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>> +        if (xc_domain_populate_physmap(xch, domid, 1, 0, 0,
>>>>>>>>> extents)
>>>>>>>>> == 1)
>>>>>>>> It looks like this is working because libxl is setting the maximum
>>>>>>>> size of the domain with some slack (1MB). You might get in trouble if
>>>>>>>> the slack is reduced or used by someone or the ACPI blob is
>>>>>>>> increasing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I saw your conversation about slack with Stefano and I am not sure I
>>>>>>> understood what it was about. If this was about padding guest's memory
>>>>>>> to be able to put there some additional data (such ACPI tables) then
>>>>>>> this is not my intention here: if I can't populate (because it is
>>>>>>> already populated, I guess) then I try to move memory around with code
>>>>>>> below. That's what mem_hole_populate_ram() does as well.
>>>>>> The maximum amount of memory that could be assigned to a domain is
>>>>>> fixed per-domain. This maximum amount does not take into account the
>>>>>> size of the ACPI blob. So you may end up to fail because all the
>>>>>> memory was assigned somewhere else.
>>>>> Why shouldn't max amount of guest's memory include ACPI tables? I think
>>>>> we should fail and not rely on this slack if no more memory is
>>>>> available.
>>>>>
>>>>> ...
>>>> Because, at least for ARM, the ACPI memory region is not part of the
>>>> "real" RAM. So this value is not taken into account into the current
>>>> max mem.
>>>
>>> Hmm.. I've always assumed it is part of memory but marked as a special
>>> type in e820 map on x86. Maybe Andrew or Jan can comment on this.
>> I guess you both mean the same - note how Julien says _"real" RAM_.
>> So from a hypervisor resource consumption view this ought to be
>> considered RAM; from a guest view it wouldn't be.
>
> In which case we shouldn't pad maxmem specified by guest's config file.
> Space to put ACPI tables must come from requested resources. If the
> tables don't fit then more memory should have been asked for.

Why? In the case of ARM, the ACPI tables lives outside the guest RAM in 
a special region. I would have expect to be the same in x86.

If so, I don't think this should be part of the maxmem requested by the 
user. IIRC, it is the same of the PCI ROM. The maxmem is incremented by 
the toolstack.

Regards,

-- 
Julien Grall

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Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-05 19:04 [PATCH v1 00/20] Make ACPI builder available to components other than hvmloader Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-05 19:05 ` [PATCH v1 01/20] hvmloader: Provide hvmloader_acpi_build_tables() Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-06 14:47   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-07-08  9:52   ` Jan Beulich
2016-07-05 19:05 ` [PATCH v1 02/20] acpi/hvmloader: Move acpi_info initialization out of ACPI code Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-07 16:58   ` Ian Jackson
2016-07-07 17:09     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-07 17:15       ` Wei Liu
2016-07-07 17:45         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-08 15:06           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-07-08 15:50             ` Ian Jackson
2016-07-08 15:57               ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-08 16:21                 ` Ian Jackson
2016-07-11 12:10                 ` Wei Liu
2016-07-11 14:47                   ` Lars Kurth
2016-07-11 14:54                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-07-11 15:06                       ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-11 15:38                         ` Ian Jackson
2016-07-11 15:47                           ` Ian Jackson
2016-07-11 16:07                           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-08 10:10   ` Jan Beulich
2016-07-08 14:39     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-08 15:11       ` Jan Beulich
2016-07-08 16:14         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-08-01 10:09           ` Jan Beulich
2016-08-01 14:06             ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-08-01 14:18               ` Jan Beulich
2016-07-05 19:05 ` [PATCH v1 03/20] acpi/hvmloader: Initialize vm_gid data outside " Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-08 10:18   ` Jan Beulich
2016-07-05 19:05 ` [PATCH v1 04/20] acpi/hvmloader: Decide which SSDTs to install in hvmloader Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-08 10:27   ` Jan Beulich
2016-07-05 19:05 ` [PATCH v1 05/20] acpi/hvmloader: Move passthrough initialization from ACPI code Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-08 10:46   ` Jan Beulich
2016-07-05 19:05 ` [PATCH v1 06/20] acpi/hvmloader: Collect processor and NUMA info in hvmloader Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-08 13:36   ` Jan Beulich
2016-07-08 15:08     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-08 15:14       ` Jan Beulich
2016-07-05 19:05 ` [PATCH v1 07/20] acpi/hvmloader: Set TIS header address " Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-08 13:38   ` Jan Beulich
2016-07-05 19:05 ` [PATCH v1 08/20] acpi/hvmloader: Make providing IOAPIC in MADT optional Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-08 13:41   ` Jan Beulich
2016-07-05 19:05 ` [PATCH v1 09/20] acpi/hvmloader: Build WAET optionally Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-08 13:42   ` Jan Beulich
2016-07-05 19:05 ` [PATCH v1 10/20] acpi/hvmloader: Replace mem_alloc() and virt_to_phys() with memory ops Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-08 13:58   ` Jan Beulich
2016-07-08 15:23     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-08 15:35       ` Jan Beulich
2016-07-08 16:19         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-19  9:11           ` Jan Beulich
2016-07-19 14:08             ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-05 19:05 ` [PATCH v1 11/20] acpi/hvmloader: Translate all addresses when assigning addresses in ACPI tables Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-08 14:31   ` Jan Beulich
2016-07-05 19:05 ` [PATCH v1 12/20] acpi/hvmloader: Link ACPI object files directly Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-08 14:51   ` Jan Beulich
2016-07-08 15:41     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-05 19:05 ` [PATCH v1 13/20] acpi/hvmloader: Include file/paths adjustments Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-08 15:51   ` Jan Beulich
2016-07-05 19:05 ` [PATCH v1 14/20] acpi: Move ACPI code to tools/libacpi Boris Ostrovsky
2016-08-03 16:00   ` Jan Beulich
2016-07-05 19:05 ` [PATCH v1 15/20] x86: Add more checks verifying that PIT/PIC/IOAPIC are emulated Boris Ostrovsky
2016-08-03 16:04   ` Jan Beulich
2016-07-05 19:05 ` [PATCH v1 16/20] x86: Allow LAPIC-only emulation_flags for HVM guests Boris Ostrovsky
2016-08-03 16:11   ` Jan Beulich
2016-08-03 16:15     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-07-05 19:05 ` [PATCH v1 17/20] libacpi: Build DSDT for PVH guests Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-05 19:05 ` [PATCH v1 18/20] libxl/acpi: Add ACPI e820 entry Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-06 10:00   ` Julien Grall
2016-07-06 15:43     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-05 19:05 ` [PATCH v1 19/20] libxl/pvhv2: Include APIC page in MMIO hole for PVHv2 guests Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-07 16:47   ` Wei Liu
2016-07-07 17:02     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-07 17:16       ` Wei Liu
2016-07-05 19:05 ` [PATCH v1 20/20] libxl/acpi: Build ACPI tables for HVMlite guests Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-06 11:05   ` Julien Grall
2016-07-06 15:50     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-06 16:04       ` Julien Grall
2016-07-06 16:30         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-06 17:03           ` Julien Grall
2016-07-06 17:33             ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-07  8:38               ` Jan Beulich
2016-07-07 15:08                 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-07 15:12                   ` Julien Grall [this message]
2016-07-07 15:24                     ` Jan Beulich
2016-07-08 10:55   ` Wei Liu
2016-07-08 14:48     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-08 16:07       ` Wei Liu
2016-07-08 17:20         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-11 10:47           ` Wei Liu
2016-07-11 13:33             ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-11 13:39               ` Julien Grall
2016-07-11 13:42                 ` Wei Liu
2016-07-11 13:58                   ` Julien Grall
2016-07-11 13:41               ` Wei Liu
2016-07-11 14:40                 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-12 14:30                   ` Wei Liu
2016-07-11 14:00               ` Anthony PERARD
2016-07-06 16:04 ` [PATCH v1 00/20] Make ACPI builder available to components other than hvmloader Roger Pau Monné
2016-07-06 16:32   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-07  8:35     ` Jan Beulich
2016-07-07  9:14       ` Julien Grall
2016-07-07  9:20         ` Jan Beulich
2016-07-07  9:29           ` Julien Grall
2016-07-07 15:04       ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-07 15:10         ` Jan Beulich

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