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From: Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Mathias Nyman <mathias.nyman@linux.intel.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/4] usb: dbc: early driver for xhci debug capability
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2016 12:33:29 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <58254A19.8030003@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161110114445.GW3142@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

Hi Peter,

On 11/10/2016 07:44 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 09:56:41AM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> On Thu, 10 Nov 2016, Lu Baolu wrote:
>>> This seems to be a common issue for all early printk drivers.
>> No. The other early printk drivers like serial do not have that problem as
>> they simply do:
>>
>>    while (*buf) {
>>       while (inb(UART) & TX_BUSY)
>>    	 cpu_relax();
>>       outb(*buf++, UART);
>>    }
> Right, which is why actual UARTs rule. If only laptops still had pinouts
> for them life would be sooooo much better.
>
> Ideally the USB debug port would be a virtual UART and its interface as
> simple and robust.
>
>> The wait for the UART to become ready is independent of the context as it
>> solely depends on the hardware.
>>
>> As a result you can see the output from irq/nmi intermingled with the one
>> from thread context, but that's the only problem they have.
>>
>> The only thing you can do to make this work is to prevent printing in NMI
>> context:
>>
>> write()
>> {
>> 	if (in_nmi())
>> 		return;
>> 	
>> 	raw_spinlock_irqsave(&lock, flags);
>> 	....
>>
>> That fully serializes the writes and just ignores NMI context printks. Not
>> optimal, but I fear that's all you can do.
> I would also suggest telling the hardware people they have designed
> something near the brink of useless. If you cannot do random exception
> context debugging (#DB, #NMI, #MCE etc..) then there's a whole host of
> problems that simply cannot be debugged.
>
> Also note that kdb runs from NMI context, so you'll not be able to
> support that either.
>

Things become complicated when it comes to USB debug port.
But it's still addressable.

At this time, we can do it like this.

write()
{
	if (in_nmi() && raw_spin_is_locked(&lock))
		return;

	raw_spinlock_irqsave(&lock, flags);
	....


This will filter some messages from NMI handler in case that
another thread is holding the spinlock. I have no idea about
how much chance could a debug user faces this. But it might
further be fixed with below enhancement.

write()
{
	if (in_nmi() && raw_spin_is_locked(&lock)) {
		produce_a_pending_item_in_ring();
		return;
	}

	raw_spinlock_irqsave(&lock, flags);

	while (!pending_item_ring_is_empty)
		consume_a_pending_item_in_ring();

	....


We can design the pending item ring in a producer-consumer
model. It's easy to avoid race between the producer and
consumer.

Best regards,
Lu Baolu

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-11  4:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-01  4:59 [PATCH v4 0/4] usb: early: add support for early printk through USB3 debug port Lu Baolu
2016-11-01  4:59 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] usb: dbc: early driver for xhci debug capability Lu Baolu
2016-11-09  9:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-11-10  1:13     ` Lu Baolu
2016-11-09  9:37   ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-11-10  1:20     ` Lu Baolu
2016-11-10  8:56       ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-11-10 11:44         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-11  4:33           ` Lu Baolu [this message]
2016-11-11 12:28             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-12  7:35               ` Lu Baolu
2016-11-12 11:32                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-11-11  2:24         ` Lu Baolu
2016-11-11  2:49           ` Lu Baolu
2016-11-01  4:59 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] x86: add support for earlyprintk via USB3 debug port Lu Baolu
2016-11-01  4:59 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] usb: serial: usb_debug: add support for dbc debug device Lu Baolu
2016-11-01  4:59 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] usb: doc: add document for USB3 debug port usage Lu Baolu

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