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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Josh Poimboeuf' <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Kaplan <David.Kaplan@amd.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"David Woodhouse" <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, "Jann Horn" <jannh@google.com>
Subject: RE: Do we need to do anything about "dead µops?"
Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 13:06:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5937e5a2f1014e2da4a07e249745ceb1@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210504031616.covixup7rhdil3yq@treble>

From: Josh Poimboeuf
> Sent: 04 May 2021 04:16
...
> I was actually thinking more along the lines of
> 
> 	val = 0;
> 
> 	if (user_supplied_idx < ARRAY_SIZE) // trained to speculatively be 'true'
> 		val = boring_non_secret_array[user_supplied_idx];
> 
> 	if (val & 1)
> 		do_something();
> 
> In other words, the victim code wouldn't be accessing the secret
> intentionally.  So there's no reason for it to avoid doing
> data-dependent branches.

Isn't that one of the very boring standard spectre cases?

	David

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-04 13:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-01 16:26 Do we need to do anything about "dead µops?" Andy Lutomirski
2021-05-01 17:35 ` Andrew Cooper
2021-05-03 23:30 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-05-04  1:31   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-05-04  3:16     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-05-04 13:06       ` David Laight [this message]
2021-05-04 13:24         ` Josh Poimboeuf

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