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From: "Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@suse.com>
To: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
Cc: sstabellini@kernel.org, wei.liu2@citrix.com,
	George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com, andrew.cooper3@citrix.com,
	ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com, tim@xen.org, julien.grall@arm.com,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, dgdegra@tycho.nsa.gov
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 13/15] xen: make grant resource limits per domain
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 01:53:31 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <59C4DD9B020000780017E575@prv-mh.provo.novell.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f5523488-2a62-0e9b-b0aa-97420212c659@suse.com>

>>> On 22.09.17 at 08:19, <jgross@suse.com> wrote:
> On 21/09/17 13:48, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>> On 21.09.17 at 13:39, <jgross@suse.com> wrote:
>>> On 21/09/17 13:31, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>>> On 21.09.17 at 09:53, <jgross@suse.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 21/09/17 08:15, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 21.09.17 at 06:35, <jgross@suse.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 20/09/17 17:35, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 20.09.17 at 14:44, <jgross@suse.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 20/09/17 13:48, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20.09.17 at 13:10, <jgross@suse.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I thought about a cap and TBH I'm not sure which would be sane to
>>>>>>>>>>> apply. The global limits seem wrong, especially looking at patch 14:
>>>>>>>>>>> those limits will be for dom0 only then. And dom0 won't need many
>>>>>>>>>>> grant frames in the normal case...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've been thinking about this Dom0 aspect too over lunch. What
>>>>>>>>>> about allowing the hardware domain to set its limit (only upwards
>>>>>>>>>> of course) in setup_table(), without any upper bound enforced?
>>>>>>>>>> This would free up the globals to be used as system wide limits
>>>>>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This would be possible, of course.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The question is whether the need to re-allocate the frame pointer arrays
>>>>>>>>> is it worth.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Input by others would be helpful...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think I'll go with additional cap boot parameters, so I don't think
>>>>>>> we need dom0 to modify its own limits.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So are we in agreement then that no new command line options
>>>>>> are needed, and that hence the cap will be applicable to all
>>>>>> domains (with Dom0 simply not having any other limit enforced
>>>>>> on it)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm, I meant this to be the other way round: having distinct parameters
>>>>> for dom0 and the cap.
>>>>>
>>>>> In case you like it much better to merge them I won't argue over it.
>>>>
>>>> Well, late yesterday evening it occurred to me that it would
>>>> only be consistent to apply the same cap to all domains. That's
>>>> in particular to not penalize a non-Dom0 hardware domain in
>>>> comparison with Dom0 itself.
>>>
>>> That's correct.
>>>
>>> OTOH e.g. a cap of lets say 1024 grant frames but Dom0 configured to
>>> 4 only (why would it need more?) would make sense: the grant frame array
>>> for Dom0 would need 32 bytes only instead of the 8kB for the 1024 frames
>>> if the cap would be the configuration value for Dom0.
>> 
>> May I suggest that for now we use the simpler variant without
>> extra Dom0 command line options, and later (post 4.10), if you or
>> anyone else really feels like it, Dom0 specific options be introduced?
> 
> While applying these changes to my series I realized this might be a bad
> choice for ARM: the dom0 grant table is here limited to about 100 pages.
> If there is some need to have a domU with more grant frames the system
> wouldn't be able to boot as the high cap would be used for the dom0
> grant frame number.

Why can't ARM code lower the Dom0 values without lowering the
caps?

Jan


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  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-22  7:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-20  6:34 [PATCH v8 00/15] xen: better grant v2 support Juergen Gross
2017-09-20  6:34 ` [PATCH v8 01/15] xen: move XENMAPSPACE_grant_table code into grant_table.c Juergen Gross
2017-09-20 12:40   ` Julien Grall
2017-09-20  6:34 ` [PATCH v8 02/15] xen: clean up grant_table.h Juergen Gross
2017-09-20  6:34 ` [PATCH v8 03/15] xen: add new domctl hypercall to set grant table resource limits Juergen Gross
2017-09-20  8:26   ` Paul Durrant
2017-09-20  8:49     ` Jan Beulich
2017-09-20  6:34 ` [PATCH v8 04/15] xen: add function for obtaining highest possible memory address Juergen Gross
2017-09-20  8:57   ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]   ` <59C2499A020000780017D412@suse.com>
2017-09-20  8:58     ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-20  9:32       ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]       ` <59C251C8020000780017D4D7@suse.com>
2017-09-20  9:39         ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-20 12:51   ` Julien Grall
2017-09-20 13:08     ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-20 14:24       ` Julien Grall
2017-09-20 14:33         ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-20 17:15           ` Julien Grall
2017-09-21  4:18             ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-20  6:34 ` [PATCH v8 05/15] xen: add max possible mfn to struct xen_sysctl_physinfo Juergen Gross
2017-09-20  8:58   ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]   ` <59C249F3020000780017D415@suse.com>
2017-09-20  9:00     ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-20 12:53   ` Julien Grall
2017-09-20 13:06     ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-20  6:34 ` [PATCH v8 06/15] libxc: add libxc support for setting grant table resource limits Juergen Gross
2017-09-20  6:34 ` [PATCH v8 07/15] tools: set grant limits for xenstore stubdom Juergen Gross
2017-09-20  6:34 ` [PATCH v8 08/15] libxl: add max possible mfn to libxl_physinfo Juergen Gross
2017-09-20  6:34 ` [PATCH v8 09/15] xl: add global grant limit config items Juergen Gross
2017-09-20  6:34 ` [PATCH v8 10/15] libxl: add libxl support for setting grant table resource limits Juergen Gross
2017-09-20  6:34 ` [PATCH v8 11/15] xen: delay allocation of grant table sub structures Juergen Gross
2017-09-20  9:22   ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]   ` <59C24F80020000780017D473@suse.com>
2017-09-20  9:44     ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-20 10:02       ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]       ` <59C258D4020000780017D521@suse.com>
2017-09-20 10:05         ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-20  6:34 ` [PATCH v8 12/15] xen/arm: move arch specific grant table bits into grant_table.c Juergen Gross
2017-09-20  9:25   ` Jan Beulich
2017-09-20 14:34   ` Julien Grall
2017-09-21  4:36     ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-20  6:34 ` [PATCH v8 13/15] xen: make grant resource limits per domain Juergen Gross
2017-09-20 10:34   ` Jan Beulich
2017-09-20 14:37     ` Julien Grall
     [not found]   ` <59C2603C020000780017D561@suse.com>
2017-09-20 11:10     ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-20 11:48       ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]       ` <59C271B9020000780017D620@suse.com>
2017-09-20 12:44         ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-20 15:35           ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]           ` <59C2A6DE020000780017D874@suse.com>
2017-09-21  4:35             ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-21  6:15               ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]               ` <59C3751D020000780017DCB6@suse.com>
2017-09-21  7:53                 ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-21 11:31                   ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]                   ` <59C3BF28020000780017DE68@suse.com>
2017-09-21 11:39                     ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-21 11:48                       ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]                       ` <59C3C33E020000780017DEC3@suse.com>
2017-09-21 11:51                         ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-22  6:19                         ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-22  7:53                           ` Jan Beulich [this message]
     [not found]                           ` <59C4DD9B020000780017E575@suse.com>
2017-09-22  8:27                             ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-22  8:35                               ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]                               ` <59C4E78B020000780017E67D@suse.com>
2017-09-22  8:44                                 ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-22  8:51                                   ` Jan Beulich
2017-09-20  6:34 ` [PATCH v8 14/15] xen: make grant table limits boot parameters dom0 only Juergen Gross
2017-09-20 12:07   ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]   ` <59C27619020000780017D66F@suse.com>
2017-09-20 12:48     ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-20 15:36       ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]       ` <59C2A72D020000780017D881@suse.com>
2017-09-21  4:27         ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-21  6:16           ` Jan Beulich
2017-09-20  6:34 ` [PATCH v8 15/15] xen: add new Xen cpuid node for max address width info Juergen Gross
2017-09-20 12:18   ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]   ` <59C278A3020000780017D689@suse.com>
2017-09-20 12:58     ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-20 15:42       ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]       ` <59C2A880020000780017D8A2@suse.com>
2017-09-21  4:21         ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-20 13:00   ` Julien Grall

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