From: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
To: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>,
qemu-block@nongnu.org
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, jsnow@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
ehabkost@redhat.com, crosa@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/6] block/qcow2: introduce inflight writes counters: fix discard
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2021 16:52:24 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <59e304ba-b6a1-8214-a243-01dd69d56732@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5fdf28fa-5a67-e3ff-a592-dc6c9285d75a@virtuozzo.com>
On 12.03.21 16:24, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
> 12.03.2021 18:10, Max Reitz wrote:
>> On 12.03.21 13:46, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
>>> 12.03.2021 15:32, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
>>>> 12.03.2021 14:17, Max Reitz wrote:
>>>>> On 12.03.21 10:09, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
>>>>>> 11.03.2021 22:58, Max Reitz wrote:
>>>>>>> On 05.03.21 18:35, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
>>>>>>>> There is a bug in qcow2: host cluster can be discarded (refcount
>>>>>>>> becomes 0) and reused during data write. In this case data write
>>>>>>>> may
>>>>
>>>> [..]
>>>>
>>>>>>>> @@ -885,6 +1019,13 @@ static int QEMU_WARN_UNUSED_RESULT
>>>>>>>> update_refcount(BlockDriverState *bs,
>>>>>>>> if (refcount == 0) {
>>>>>>>> void *table;
>>>>>>>> + Qcow2InFlightRefcount *infl = find_infl_wr(s,
>>>>>>>> cluster_index);
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> + if (infl) {
>>>>>>>> + infl->refcount_zero = true;
>>>>>>>> + infl->type = type;
>>>>>>>> + continue;
>>>>>>>> + }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don’t understand what this is supposed to do exactly. It seems
>>>>>>> like it wants to keep metadata structures in the cache that are
>>>>>>> still in use (because dropping them from the caches is what
>>>>>>> happens next), but users of metadata structures won’t set
>>>>>>> in-flight counters for those metadata structures, will they?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't follow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We want the code in "if (refcount == 0)" to be triggered only when
>>>>>> full reference count of the host cluster becomes 0, including
>>>>>> inflight-write-cnt. So, if at this point inflight-write-cnt is not
>>>>>> 0, we postpone freeing the host cluster, it will be done later
>>>>>> from "slow path" in update_inflight_write_cnt().
>>>>>
>>>>> But the code under “if (refcount == 0)” doesn’t free anything, does
>>>>> it? All I can see is code to remove metadata structures from the
>>>>> metadata caches (if the discarded cluster was an L2 table or a
>>>>> refblock), and finally the discard on the underlying file. I don’t
>>>>> see how that protocol-level discard has anything to do with our
>>>>> problem, though.
>>>>
>>>> Hmm. Still, if we do this discard, and then our in-flight write,
>>>> we'll have data instead of a hole. Not a big deal, but seems better
>>>> to postpone discard.
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand, clearing caches is OK, as its related only to
>>>> qcow2-refcount, not to inflight-write-cnt
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as I understand, the freeing happens immediately above the
>>>>> “if (refcount == 0)” block by s->set_refcount() setting the
>>>>> refcount to 0. (including updating s->free_cluster_index if the
>>>>> refcount is 0).
>>>>
>>>> Hmm.. And that (setting s->free_cluster_index) what I should
>>>> actually prevent until total reference count becomes zero.
>>>>
>>>> And about s->set_refcount(): it only update a refcount itself, and
>>>> don't free anything.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> So, it is more correct like this:
>>>
>>> diff --git a/block/qcow2-refcount.c b/block/qcow2-refcount.c
>>> index 464d133368..1da282446d 100644
>>> --- a/block/qcow2-refcount.c
>>> +++ b/block/qcow2-refcount.c
>>> @@ -1012,21 +1012,12 @@ static int QEMU_WARN_UNUSED_RESULT
>>> update_refcount(BlockDriverState *bs,
>>> } else {
>>> refcount += addend;
>>> }
>>> - if (refcount == 0 && cluster_index < s->free_cluster_index) {
>>> - s->free_cluster_index = cluster_index;
>>> - }
>>> s->set_refcount(refcount_block, block_index, refcount);
>>>
>>> if (refcount == 0) {
>>> void *table;
>>> Qcow2InFlightRefcount *infl = find_infl_wr(s,
>>> cluster_index);
>>>
>>> - if (infl) {
>>> - infl->refcount_zero = true;
>>> - infl->type = type;
>>> - continue;
>>> - }
>>> -
>>> table =
>>> qcow2_cache_is_table_offset(s->refcount_block_cache,
>>> offset);
>>> if (table != NULL) {
>>> @@ -1040,6 +1031,16 @@ static int QEMU_WARN_UNUSED_RESULT
>>> update_refcount(BlockDriverState *bs,
>>> qcow2_cache_discard(s->l2_table_cache, table);
>>> }
>>>
>>> + if (infl) {
>>> + infl->refcount_zero = true;
>>> + infl->type = type;
>>> + continue;
>>> + }
>>> +
>>> + if (cluster_index < s->free_cluster_index) {
>>> + s->free_cluster_index = cluster_index;
>>> + }
>>> +
>>> if (s->discard_passthrough[type]) {
>>> update_refcount_discard(bs, cluster_offset,
>>> s->cluster_size);
>>> }
>>
>> I don’t think I like using s->free_cluster_index as a protection
>> against allocating something before it.
>
> Hmm, I just propose not to update it, if refcount reached 0 but we still
> have inflight writes.
>
>
>>
>> First, it comes back the problem I just described in my mail from
>> 15:58 GMT+1, which is that you’re changing the definition of what a
>> free cluster is. With this proposal, you’re proposing yet a new
>> definition: A free cluster is anything with refcount == 0 after
>> free_cluster_index.
>
> I think that free cluster is anything with refcount = 0 and
> inflight-write-cnt = 0.
Then, as I said in my other mail, update_refcount() just cannot free any
cluster. So changes to that function can’t be justified by preventing
it from freeing clusters.
You need to clearly define what it is that update_refcount() should or
shouldn’t do, and then we have to think about whether when all writes
have settled, we really have to invoke qcow2_update_cluster_refcount()
or whether we should do the small outstanding changes just directly in
update_inflight_write_cnt().
I think this needs to be more formalized, or it doesn’t make sense.
For example, say we do define a free cluster to be refcount (RC) = 0 and
inflight-write-cnt (IFWC) = 0. Then everything that is done to a
cluster because it is considered being freed right now because its RC
drops to 0 must probably be changed to only be done if also its IFWC is
0. For example, we should only discard host clusters on the protocol
layer if a cluster becomes free. update_refcount() will no longer be
able to free clusters with IFWC > 0, so it must never issue a
protocol-level discard for them. And, yes, it also shouldn’t adjust
first_free_cluster_index, as you propose here. (But you didn’t explain
why, and it seems like it was just intuition to you instead of looking
at it more formally.)
Instead, for clusters with RC = 0 and IFWC > 0,
update_inflight_write_cnt() will take on the role of freeing them. So
now that function must adjust first_free_cluster_index and issue the
protocol-level discard for such clusters.
I suppose in practice we could invoke qcow2_update_cluster_refcount()
with -0, as you do, because now the cluster has RC = 0 and IFWC = 0, so
now that function will be capable of freeing it. But to me, that just
looks like a bit of abuse.
I suppose we could create a new function qcow2_cluster_freed() where we
collect everything that needs to be done once a cluster is considered
freed (which so far was whenever its RC dropped to 0, which only happens
in update_refcount(); and then will be whenever its RC and its IFWC drop
to 0, which can happen in either update_refcount() or
update_inflight_write_cnt()). What would belong in there is discarding
the cluster on the protocol level, and adjusting
first_free_cluster_index. (Perhaps more, I don’t know.) With such a
function, it would seem clear to me that there is no need to invoke
qcow2_update_cluster_refcount() just to get precisely that effect.
(The alternative would be to keep RC == 0 the definition of a freed
cluster. Then we’d have to postpone the s->set_refcount() in
update_refcount(), and update the refcount again in
update_inflight_write_cnt(), but invoking
qcow2_update_cluster_refcount(). We wouldn’t need to change the
allocation functions.
I’m not saying that alternative is better – I don’t think it is, I think
you’re right that the definition of a freed cluster should be changed.
I’m just presenting it in contrast, to show when it would make sense to
call qcow2_update_cluster_refcount().)
> And free_cluster_index is a hint where start to
> search for such cluster.
>
>>
>> Now looking only at the allocation functions, it may look like that
>> kind of is the definition already. But I don’t think that was the
>> intention when free_cluster_index was introduced, so we’d have to
>> check every place that sets free_cluster_index, to see whether it
>> adheres to this definition.
>>
>> And I think it’s clear that there is a place that won’t adhere to this
>> definition, and that is this very place here, in update_refcount().
>> Say free_cluster_index is 42. Then you free cluster 39, but there is
>> a write to it, so free_cluster_index isn’t update. Then you free
>> cluster 38, and there are writes to that cluster, so
>> free_cluster_index is updated to 38. Suddenly, 39 is free to be
>> allocated, too.
>
> Why? 39 is protected by inflight-cnt, and we do has_infl_wr() check
> together with refcount==0 check when allocate clusters.
I was (wrongly) assuming that with this change you’d drop the check in
the allocation functions.
Max
>> (The precise problem is that with this new definition decreasing
>> free_cluster_index suddenly has the power to free any cluster between
>> its new and all value. With the old definition, changing
>> free_cluster_index would never free any cluster. So when you decrease
>> free_cluster_index, you suddenly have to be sure that all clusters
>> between the new and old value that have refcount 0 are indeed to be
>> considered free.)
>>
>> Max
>>
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-03-12 15:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-03-05 17:35 [PATCH v3 0/6] qcow2: compressed write cache Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-05 17:35 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] block-jobs: flush target at the end of .run() Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-11 16:57 ` Max Reitz
2021-03-05 17:35 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] iotests: add qcow2-discard-during-rewrite Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-05 17:35 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] block/qcow2: introduce inflight writes counters: fix discard Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-11 19:58 ` Max Reitz
2021-03-12 9:09 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-12 11:17 ` Max Reitz
2021-03-12 12:32 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-12 12:42 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-12 15:01 ` Max Reitz
2021-03-12 12:46 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-12 15:10 ` Max Reitz
2021-03-12 15:24 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-12 15:52 ` Max Reitz [this message]
2021-03-12 16:03 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-12 14:58 ` Max Reitz
2021-03-12 15:39 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-05 17:35 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] util: implement seqcache Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-12 13:41 ` Max Reitz
2021-03-12 14:37 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-12 15:13 ` Max Reitz
2021-06-04 14:31 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-05 17:35 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] block-coroutine-wrapper: allow non bdrv_ prefix Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-12 16:53 ` Max Reitz
2021-03-05 17:35 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] block/qcow2: use seqcache for compressed writes Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-12 18:15 ` Max Reitz
2021-03-12 18:43 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-15 9:58 ` Max Reitz
2021-03-15 14:40 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-16 12:25 ` Max Reitz
2021-03-16 17:48 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-17 8:09 ` Max Reitz
2021-03-12 18:45 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-29 20:18 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
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