All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
To: Lars Kurth <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	George Dunlap <dunlapg@umich.edu>,
	Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>
Subject: Re: Xen 4.12 release planning
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 13:58:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <59fad36a-e68a-c5af-a0de-e28e0debe113@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5A33C1A0-A8D8-4596-B176-3F3B40F71C5B@gmail.com>

On 25/07/18 13:51, Lars Kurth wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 25 Jul 2018, at 12:45, Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 25/07/18 13:39, Lars Kurth wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 25 Jul 2018, at 12:24, George Dunlap <dunlapg@umich.edu
>>>> <mailto:dunlapg@umich.edu>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com
>>>> <mailto:jgross@suse.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> fFFFFFFR.......ffFFFFFFR.......ffFFFFFFR.......f
>>>>>
>>>>> We can rule out several variants with release dates just before or in a
>>>>> holiday season:
>>>>>
>>>>> Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
>>>>> Xx.XXXXX...xxxx...........xxXXXXx..............X      holidays
>>>>> ffFFFFFFR.......ffFFFFFFR.......ffFFFFFFR.......
>>>>> .ffFFFFFFR.......ffFFFFFFR.......ffFFFFFFR......
>>>>>
>>>>> Best fit seems to be releasing in first half of March/July/November. The
>>>>> main clash seems to be Chinese new year in the freeze period, but
>>>>> avoiding that would mean we'd have to either move into Christmas or
>>>>> Eastern, or to use a schedule with varying periods.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please remember that Chinese new year is only 2 weeks long (at varying
>>>>> dates) so only 2 weeks of the freeze period are hit. Next year the
>>>>> Chinese new year will be at February 5th.
>>>>>
>>>>> For my 4.12 plan I've added some extra weeks between last posting date
>>>>> and release date to accommodate for the holiday seasons, resulting in
>>>>> my suggestion.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the detailed analysis Juregen.  This seems good to me.
>>>>
>>>> -George
>>>
>>> This looks good to me also. To address Julien's concerns, we could also
>>> consider an earlier Last posting date/Hard code freeze date for Arm
>>> related code to work around Julien's holiday plans. I think this would
>>> be entirely OK and set expectations of contributors accordingly. But
>>> maybe this is not necessary if Julien and Stefano can agree a work split
>>> somehow. 
>>>
>>> Alternatively we could communicate absences of key reviewers say in
>>> November to set expectations of contributors for the final stretch of
>>> the release cycle. In other words, if a key reviewer is away, then
>>> contributors will need to get series into good shape before their
>>> reviewers go on vacation. 
>>
>> I like that idea. Lets expand it to key persons (i.e. release manager,
>> release technician, community manager, key reviewers).
> 
> We should probably add this to the Release manager TODO list, such that we don't forget when the time comes. The same principle could apply to other holiday periods as well.

I would rather tie that to the point in the release process. There might
be planned vacations at other times, too.

I'll send a patch for the release management doc.


Juergen

_______________________________________________
Xen-devel mailing list
Xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
https://lists.xenproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xen-devel

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-25 11:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-25  7:19 Xen 4.12 release planning Juergen Gross
2018-07-25  8:15 ` Julien Grall
2018-07-25  8:19   ` Andrew Cooper
2018-07-25  9:22     ` Juergen Gross
2018-07-25 11:24       ` George Dunlap
2018-07-25 11:30         ` Andrew Cooper
2018-07-25 11:34           ` George Dunlap
2018-07-25 11:36             ` Andrew Cooper
2018-07-25 11:34           ` Juergen Gross
2018-07-25 11:37             ` Juergen Gross
2018-07-25 11:39         ` Lars Kurth
2018-07-25 11:45           ` Juergen Gross
2018-07-25 11:51             ` Lars Kurth
2018-07-25 11:58               ` Juergen Gross [this message]
2018-07-26 22:13 ` Stefano Stabellini
2018-07-27  7:51   ` Juergen Gross
2018-07-27 10:32     ` Lars Kurth
2018-07-27 10:43       ` Juergen Gross
2018-07-27 15:50         ` Stefano Stabellini
2018-07-27 16:10           ` Juergen Gross

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=59fad36a-e68a-c5af-a0de-e28e0debe113@suse.com \
    --to=jgross@suse.com \
    --cc=andrew.cooper3@citrix.com \
    --cc=dunlapg@umich.edu \
    --cc=julien.grall@arm.com \
    --cc=lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com \
    --cc=xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.