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From: "Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@suse.com>
To: Paul Durrant <paul.durrant@citrix.com>
Cc: xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	george.dunlap@citrix.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 08/14] vtd: add lookup_page method to iommu_ops
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 03:21:13 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5B98DA8902000078001E7B4E@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <82baab81955d48ae9a2c50b964c2ca34@AMSPEX02CL03.citrite.net>

>>> On 12.09.18 at 11:15, <Paul.Durrant@citrix.com> wrote:
>>  -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jan Beulich [mailto:JBeulich@suse.com]
>> Sent: 12 September 2018 10:13
>> To: Paul Durrant <Paul.Durrant@citrix.com>
>> Cc: George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@citrix.com>; Kevin Tian
>> <kevin.tian@intel.com>; xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>
>> Subject: RE: [PATCH v6 08/14] vtd: add lookup_page method to iommu_ops
>> 
>> >>> On 12.09.18 at 11:05, <Paul.Durrant@citrix.com> wrote:
>> >> From: Jan Beulich [mailto:JBeulich@suse.com]
>> >> Sent: 12 September 2018 10:03
>> >>
>> >> A HVM guest using the PV IOMMU is quite fine, but it shouldn't talk to
>> >> it in terms of MFNs.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Well, it has to talk MFNs at some level, surely? The output of the IOMMU is
>> > not subject to EPT/NPT, right?
>> 
>> Yes to the second question, but no to the first: The GFN -> MFN translation
>> should still be done inside Xen in the HVM case, imo (in the course of
>> manufacturing the PTE).
> 
> Indeed. This function is very much internal to Xen (it's simply an 
> abstraction on top of a vendor implementation), so why should it not work in 
> terms of MFNs?

Because "MFN" is a concept a HVM guest is not knowing about, or
supposed to be knowing. The only time where (part of) it might
legitimately (have to) know is when it comes to managing the host
(including any guests), i.e. in the tool stack of a PVH Dom0.

Jan



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  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-12  9:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-23  9:46 [PATCH v6 00/14] paravirtual IOMMU interface Paul Durrant
2018-08-23  9:46 ` [PATCH v6 01/14] iommu: introduce the concept of BFN Paul Durrant
2018-08-30 15:59   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-03  8:23     ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-03 11:46       ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-04  6:48         ` Tian, Kevin
2018-09-04  8:32           ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-04  8:37             ` Tian, Kevin
2018-09-04  8:47               ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-04  8:49                 ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-04  9:08                   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-05  0:42                     ` Tian, Kevin
2018-09-05  6:48                       ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-05  6:56                         ` Tian, Kevin
2018-09-05  7:11                           ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-05  9:13                             ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-05  9:38                               ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-06 10:36                                 ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-06 13:13                                   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-06 14:54                                     ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-07  1:47                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2018-09-07  6:24                                         ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-07  8:13                                           ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-07  8:16                                             ` Tian, Kevin
2018-09-07  8:25                                               ` Paul Durrant
2018-08-23  9:46 ` [PATCH v6 02/14] iommu: make use of type-safe BFN and MFN in exported functions Paul Durrant
2018-09-04 10:29   ` Jan Beulich
2018-08-23  9:47 ` [PATCH v6 03/14] iommu: push use of type-safe BFN and MFN into iommu_ops Paul Durrant
2018-09-04 10:32   ` Jan Beulich
2018-08-23  9:47 ` [PATCH v6 04/14] iommu: don't domain_crash() inside iommu_map/unmap_page() Paul Durrant
2018-09-04 10:38   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-04 10:39     ` Paul Durrant
2018-08-23  9:47 ` [PATCH v6 05/14] public / x86: introduce __HYPERCALL_iommu_op Paul Durrant
2018-09-04 11:50   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-04 12:23     ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-04 12:55       ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-04 13:17         ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-07 10:52   ` Jan Beulich
2018-08-23  9:47 ` [PATCH v6 06/14] iommu: track reserved ranges using a rangeset Paul Durrant
2018-09-07 10:40   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-11  9:28     ` Paul Durrant
2018-08-23  9:47 ` [PATCH v6 07/14] x86: add iommu_op to query reserved ranges Paul Durrant
2018-09-07 11:01   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-11  9:34     ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-11  9:43       ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-13  6:11     ` Tian, Kevin
2018-08-23  9:47 ` [PATCH v6 08/14] vtd: add lookup_page method to iommu_ops Paul Durrant
2018-09-07 11:11   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-07 12:36     ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-07 14:56       ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-07 15:24         ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-07 15:52           ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12  8:31     ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12  8:43       ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12  8:45         ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12  8:51           ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12  8:53             ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12  9:03               ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12  9:05                 ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12  9:12                   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12  9:15                     ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12  9:21                       ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2018-09-12  9:30                         ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12 10:07                           ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12 10:09                             ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12 12:15                               ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12 12:22                                 ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12 12:39                                   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12 12:53                                     ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12 13:19                                       ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12 13:25                                         ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12 13:39                                           ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12 13:43                                             ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12  8:59           ` Jan Beulich
2018-08-23  9:47 ` [PATCH v6 09/14] mm / iommu: include need_iommu() test in iommu_use_hap_pt() Paul Durrant
2018-09-07 11:20   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-11  9:39     ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-11  9:47       ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-13  6:23         ` Tian, Kevin
2018-09-13  8:34           ` Paul Durrant
2018-08-23  9:47 ` [PATCH v6 10/14] mm / iommu: split need_iommu() into has_iommu_pt() and need_iommu_pt_sync() Paul Durrant
2018-08-23 11:10   ` Razvan Cojocaru
2018-09-11 14:31   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-11 15:40     ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12  6:45       ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12  8:07         ` Paul Durrant
2018-08-23  9:47 ` [PATCH v6 11/14] x86: add iommu_op to enable modification of IOMMU mappings Paul Durrant
2018-09-11 14:48   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-11 15:52     ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12  6:53       ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12  8:04         ` Paul Durrant
2018-08-23  9:47 ` [PATCH v6 12/14] memory: add get_paged_gfn() as a wrapper Paul Durrant
2018-08-23 10:24   ` Julien Grall
2018-08-23 10:30     ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-11 14:56   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12  9:10     ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12  9:15       ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12 10:01         ` George Dunlap
2018-09-12 10:08           ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12 10:10           ` Jan Beulich
2018-08-23  9:47 ` [PATCH v6 13/14] x86: add iommu_ops to modify and flush IOMMU mappings Paul Durrant
2018-09-11 15:15   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12  7:03   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12  8:02     ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12  8:27       ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-13  6:41       ` Tian, Kevin
2018-09-13  8:32         ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-13  8:49         ` Jan Beulich
2018-08-23  9:47 ` [PATCH v6 14/14] x86: extend the map and unmap iommu_ops to support grant references Paul Durrant
2018-09-12 14:12   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12 16:28     ` Paul Durrant

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