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From: Shameerali Kolothum Thodi <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>
To: Jonathan Cameron <jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"mhocko@suse.com" <mhocko@suse.com>,
	"dan.j.williams@intel.com" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Pavel.Tatashin@microsoft.com" <Pavel.Tatashin@microsoft.com>,
	"david@redhat.com" <david@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"dave.hansen@intel.com" <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Linuxarm <linuxarm@huawei.com>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Subject: RE: [RFC PATCH v2 0/4] mm, memory_hotplug: allocate memmap from hotadded memory
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 13:21:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5FC3163CFD30C246ABAA99954A238FA8392B5DB6@lhreml524-mbs.china.huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190212124707.000028ea@huawei.com>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan Cameron
> Sent: 12 February 2019 12:47
> To: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>
> Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org; mhocko@suse.com; dan.j.williams@intel.com;
> Pavel.Tatashin@microsoft.com; david@redhat.com;
> linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; dave.hansen@intel.com; Shameerali Kolothum
> Thodi <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>; Linuxarm
> <linuxarm@huawei.com>; Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
> Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 0/4] mm, memory_hotplug: allocate memmap from
> hotadded memory
> 
> On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 11:37:04 +0100
> Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > this is the v2 of the first RFC I sent back then in October [1].
> > In this new version I tried to reduce the complexity as much as possible,
> > plus some clean ups.
> >
> > [Testing]
> >
> > I have tested it on "x86_64" (small/big memblocks) and on "powerpc".
> > On both architectures hot-add/hot-remove online/offline operations
> > worked as expected using vmemmap pages, I have not seen any issues so far.
> > I wanted to try it out on Hyper-V/Xen, but I did not manage to.
> > I plan to do so along this week (if time allows).
> > I would also like to test it on arm64, but I am not sure I can grab
> > an arm64 box anytime soon.
> 
> Hi Oscar,
> 
> I ran tests on one of our arm64 machines. Particular machine doesn't actually
> have
> the mechanics for hotplug, so was all 'faked', but software wise it's all the
> same.
> 
> Upshot, seems to work as expected on arm64 as well.
> Tested-by: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>
> 
> Remove currently relies on some out of tree patches (and dirty hacks) due
> to the usual issue with how arm64 does pfn_valid. It's not even vaguely
> ready for upstream. I'll aim to post an informational set for anyone else
> testing in this area (it's more or less just a rebase of the patches from
> a few years ago).
> 
> +CC Shameer who has been testing the virtualization side for more details on
> that, 

Right, I have sent out a RFC series[1] to enable mem hotplug for Qemu ARM virt
platform. Using this Qemu, I ran few tests with your patches on a HiSilicon ARM64
platform. Looks like it is doing the job.

root@ubuntu:~# uname -a
Linux ubuntu 5.0.0-rc1-mm1-00173-g22b0744 #5 SMP PREEMPT Tue Feb 5 10:32:26 GMT 2019 aarch64 aarch64 aarch64 GNU/Linux

root@ubuntu:~# numactl -H
available: 2 nodes (0-1)
node 0 cpus: 0
node 0 size: 981 MB
node 0 free: 854 MB
node 1 cpus:
node 1 size: 0 MB
node 1 free: 0 MB
node distances:
node   0   1 
  0:  10  20 
  1:  20  10 
root@ubuntu:~# (qemu) 
(qemu) object_add memory-backend-ram,id=mem1,size=1G
(qemu) device_add pc-dimm,id=dimm1,memdev=mem1,node=1
root@ubuntu:~# 
root@ubuntu:~# numactl -H
available: 2 nodes (0-1)
node 0 cpus: 0
node 0 size: 981 MB
node 0 free: 853 MB
node 1 cpus:
node 1 size: 1008 MB
node 1 free: 1008 MB
node distances:
node   0   1 
  0:  10  20 
  1:  20  10 
root@ubuntu:~#  

FWIW,
Tested-by: Shameer Kolothum <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>

Thanks,
Shameer
[1] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2019-01/msg06966.html

and Robin who is driving forward memory hotplug in general on the arm64
> side.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> >
> > [Coverletter]:
> >
> > This is another step to make the memory hotplug more usable. The primary
> > goal of this patchset is to reduce memory overhead of the hot added
> > memory (at least for SPARSE_VMEMMAP memory model). The current way
> we use
> > to populate memmap (struct page array) has two main drawbacks:
> >
> > a) it consumes an additional memory until the hotadded memory itself is
> >    onlined and
> > b) memmap might end up on a different numa node which is especially true
> >    for movable_node configuration.
> >
> > a) is problem especially for memory hotplug based memory "ballooning"
> >    solutions when the delay between physical memory hotplug and the
> >    onlining can lead to OOM and that led to introduction of hacks like auto
> >    onlining (see 31bc3858ea3e ("memory-hotplug: add automatic onlining
> >    policy for the newly added memory")).
> >
> > b) can have performance drawbacks.
> >
> > I have also seen hot-add operations failing on powerpc due to the fact
> > that we try to use order-8 pages when populating the memmap array.
> > Given 64KB base pagesize, that is 16MB.
> > If we run out of those, we just fail the operation and we cannot add
> > more memory.
> > We could fallback to base pages as x86_64 does, but we can do better.
> >
> > One way to mitigate all these issues is to simply allocate memmap array
> > (which is the largest memory footprint of the physical memory hotplug)
> > from the hotadded memory itself. VMEMMAP memory model allows us to
> map
> > any pfn range so the memory doesn't need to be online to be usable
> > for the array. See patch 3 for more details. In short I am reusing an
> > existing vmem_altmap which wants to achieve the same thing for nvdim
> > device memory.
> >
> > There is also one potential drawback, though. If somebody uses memory
> > hotplug for 1G (gigantic) hugetlb pages then this scheme will not work
> > for them obviously because each memory block will contain reserved
> > area. Large x86 machines will use 2G memblocks so at least one 1G page
> > will be available but this is still not 2G...
> >
> > I am not really sure somebody does that and how reliable that can work
> > actually. Nevertheless, I _believe_ that onlining more memory into
> > virtual machines is much more common usecase. Anyway if there ever is a
> > strong demand for such a usecase we have basically 3 options a) enlarge
> > memory blocks even more b) enhance altmap allocation strategy and reuse
> > low memory sections to host memmaps of other sections on the same NUMA
> > node c) have the memmap allocation strategy configurable to fallback to
> > the current allocation.
> >
> > [Overall design]:
> >
> > Let us say we hot-add 2GB of memory on a x86_64 (memblock size = 128M).
> > That is:
> >
> >  - 16 sections
> >  - 524288 pages
> >  - 8192 vmemmap pages (out of those 524288. We spend 512 pages for each
> section)
> >
> >  The range of pages is: 0xffffea0004000000 - 0xffffea0006000000
> >  The vmemmap range is:  0xffffea0004000000 - 0xffffea0004080000
> >
> >  0xffffea0004000000 is the head vmemmap page (first page), while all the
> others
> >  are "tails".
> >
> >  We keep the following information in it:
> >
> >  - Head page:
> >    - head->_refcount: number of sections
> >    - head->private :  number of vmemmap pages
> >  - Tail page:
> >    - tail->freelist : pointer to the head
> >
> > This is done because it eases the work in cases where we have to compute
> the
> > number of vmemmap pages to know how much do we have to skip etc, and to
> keep
> > the right accounting to present_pages.
> >
> > When we want to hot-remove the range, we need to be careful because the
> first
> > pages of that range, are used for the memmap maping, so if we remove
> those
> > first, we would blow up while accessing the others later on.
> > For that reason we keep the number of sections in head->_refcount, to know
> how
> > much do we have to defer the free up.
> >
> > Since in a hot-remove operation, sections are being removed sequentially, the
> > approach taken here is that every time we hit free_section_memmap(), we
> decrease
> > the refcount of the head.
> > When it reaches 0, we know that we hit the last section, so we call
> > vmemmap_free() for the whole memory-range in backwards, so we make
> sure that
> > the pages used for the mapping will be latest to be freed up.
> >
> > The accounting is as follows:
> >
> >  Vmemmap pages are charged to spanned/present_paged, but not to
> manages_pages.
> >
> > I yet have to check a couple of things like creating an accounting item
> > like VMEMMAP_PAGES to show in /proc/meminfo to ease to spot the
> memory that
> > went in there, testing Hyper-V/Xen to see how they react to the fact that
> > we are using the beginning of the memory-range for our own purposes, and
> to
> > check the thing about gigantic pages + hotplug.
> > I also have to check that there is no compilation/runtime errors when
> > CONFIG_SPARSEMEM but !CONFIG_SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP.
> > But before that, I would like to get people's feedback about the overall
> > design, and ideas/suggestions.
> >
> >
> > [1] https://patchwork.kernel.org/cover/10685835/
> >
> > Michal Hocko (3):
> >   mm, memory_hotplug: cleanup memory offline path
> >   mm, memory_hotplug: provide a more generic restrictions for memory
> >     hotplug
> >   mm, sparse: rename kmalloc_section_memmap,
> __kfree_section_memmap
> >
> > Oscar Salvador (1):
> >   mm, memory_hotplug: allocate memmap from the added memory range
> for
> >     sparse-vmemmap
> >
> >  arch/arm64/mm/mmu.c            |  10 ++-
> >  arch/ia64/mm/init.c            |   5 +-
> >  arch/powerpc/mm/init_64.c      |   7 ++
> >  arch/powerpc/mm/mem.c          |   6 +-
> >  arch/s390/mm/init.c            |  12 ++-
> >  arch/sh/mm/init.c              |   6 +-
> >  arch/x86/mm/init_32.c          |   6 +-
> >  arch/x86/mm/init_64.c          |  20 +++--
> >  drivers/hv/hv_balloon.c        |   1 +
> >  drivers/xen/balloon.c          |   1 +
> >  include/linux/memory_hotplug.h |  42 ++++++++--
> >  include/linux/memremap.h       |   2 +-
> >  include/linux/page-flags.h     |  23 +++++
> >  kernel/memremap.c              |   9 +-
> >  mm/compaction.c                |   8 ++
> >  mm/memory_hotplug.c            | 186
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------------
> >  mm/page_alloc.c                |  47 ++++++++++-
> >  mm/page_isolation.c            |  13 +++
> >  mm/sparse.c                    | 124
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++--
> >  mm/util.c                      |   2 +
> >  20 files changed, 431 insertions(+), 99 deletions(-)
> >
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-12 13:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-22 10:37 [RFC PATCH v2 0/4] mm, memory_hotplug: allocate memmap from hotadded memory Oscar Salvador
2019-01-22 10:37 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/4] mm, memory_hotplug: cleanup memory offline path Oscar Salvador
2019-01-22 10:37 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/4] mm, memory_hotplug: provide a more generic restrictions for memory hotplug Oscar Salvador
2019-01-22 10:37 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/4] mm, memory_hotplug: allocate memmap from the added memory range for sparse-vmemmap Oscar Salvador
2019-01-22 10:37 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/4] mm, sparse: rename kmalloc_section_memmap, __kfree_section_memmap Oscar Salvador
2019-01-25  8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/4] mm, memory_hotplug: allocate memmap from hotadded memory David Hildenbrand
2019-01-29  8:43   ` Oscar Salvador
2019-01-29 10:08     ` David Hildenbrand
2019-01-30 21:52 ` Oscar Salvador
2019-01-31  7:23   ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-31  8:03     ` Oscar Salvador
2019-02-12 12:47 ` Jonathan Cameron
2019-02-12 13:21   ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi [this message]
2019-02-12 13:56     ` Oscar Salvador
2019-02-12 14:42       ` Michal Hocko
2019-02-12 14:50         ` Oscar Salvador

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