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From: Don Dutile <ddutile@redhat.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-pci <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@intel.com>,
	"Bryant G. Ly" <bryantly@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Bodong Wang <bodong@mellanox.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] uio/uio_pci_generic: Add SR-IOV support
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 14:52:31 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5c744ed0-2937-4460-fb8a-6e92fe5bfffa@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1506947750.18322.7.camel@infradead.org>

On 10/02/2017 08:35 AM, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Thu, 2017-09-28 at 12:56 -0400, Don Dutile wrote:
>> Well, my point is more like: why put it in uio?
>> why not make it available via pcie, setup while/if no driver attached?
>> i.e., other non-uio users can use the mechanism.... like libvirt? ...
>> if a PF driver isn't required.
>
> This would allow you to enable SR-IOV on a PF before its driver is
> loaded, right? Even when that driver *is* going to need to perform
> resource management for those VFs?
>
> Would existing drivers cope with SR-IOV being enabled, and VFs being
> assigned to guests, before they're loaded? If so then sure, let's do it
> generically. But I'm not sure that's the case.
>
No better than a uio driver/mgmt api that may have to configure a PF
before a VF is enabled.
Q: So what is better: provide a common hook in sysfs for all to use,
    potentially causing a kernel fault (during vf probe/config), or
    a user-level program/mgmt-app that does the equivalent?

> As it is, the UIO driver is all about "userspace knows best". So if
> there's resource management to be done, then userspace needs to do that
> before enabling SR-IOV. And that's consistent with the current driver-
> based enabling model for SR-IOV.
>
I'm not seeing the UIO driver consistency here.  IMO, it's a similar
problem, moved to a different place. i.e., slightly different attack vector,
but same endpoint.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-02 18:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-27 12:59 [PATCH] uio/uio_pci_generic: Add SR-IOV support David Woodhouse
2017-09-27 22:00 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-09-27 22:20   ` David Woodhouse
2017-09-27 23:06     ` Alexander Duyck
2017-09-28 12:22       ` Don Dutile
2017-09-28 13:46         ` David Woodhouse
2017-09-28 15:05           ` Don Dutile
2017-09-28 15:52             ` David Woodhouse
2017-09-28 16:56               ` Don Dutile
2017-10-02 12:35                 ` David Woodhouse
2017-10-02 18:52                   ` Don Dutile [this message]
2017-10-02 19:10                     ` David Woodhouse
2017-10-02 22:02                       ` Don Dutile
2017-09-28 12:12   ` Don Dutile

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