From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42C40BAF for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 20:58:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qt0-f175.google.com (mail-qt0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D82AD71C for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 20:58:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qt0-f175.google.com with SMTP id g44-v6so5648896qtb.12 for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 13:58:45 -0700 (PDT) To: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org From: Laura Abbott Message-ID: <5c9c41b2-14f9-41cc-ae85-be9721f37c86@redhat.com> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 13:58:42 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Greg KH Subject: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINER SUMMIT] Stable trees and release time List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , I'd like to start a discussion about the stable release cycle. Fedora is a heavy user of the most recent stable trees and we generally do a pretty good job of keeping up to date. As we try and increase testing though, the stable release process gets to be a bit difficult. We often run into the problem where release .Z is officially released and then .Z+1 comes out as an -rc immediately after. Given Fedora release processes, we haven't always finished testing .Z by the time .Z+1 comes out. What to do in this situation really depends on what's in .Z and .Z+1 and how stable we think things are. This usually works out fine but a) sometimes we guess wrong and should have tested .Z more b) we're only looking to increase testing. What I'd like to see is stable updates that come on a regular schedule with a longer -rc interval, say Sunday with a one week -rc period. I understand that much of the current stable schedule is based on Greg's schedule. As a distro maintainer though, a regular release schedule with a longer testing window makes it much easier to plan and deliver something useful to our users. It's also a much easier sell for encouraging everyone to pick up every stable update if there's a known schedule. I also realize Greg is probably reading this with a very skeptical look on his face so I'd be interested to hear from other distro maintainers as well. Thanks, Laura