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Op 30 sep. 2011 om 12:16 heeft Joshua Lock <josh@linux.intel.com> het volgen=
de geschreven:

> On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 11:32 -0500, Koen Kooi wrote:
>>=20
>> Op 30 sep. 2011 om 10:49 heeft Joshua Lock <josh@linux.intel.com> het vol=
gende geschreven:
>>=20
>>> On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 08:36 -0600, Yu, Ke wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>=20
>>>> As you may already know, a new GUI has been added to bitbake recently,=20=

>>>> i.e. HOB (Human Oriented Builder).=20
>>>=20
>>> It's not an acronym, it's just a name - Hob.
>>>=20
>>>> It is a graphical image creator that=20
>>>> allows user to freely choose which packages to be built in the image.=20=

>>>> The wiki https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/BitBake/GUI/Hob  has more=20=

>>>> detail.
>>>=20
>>> I'll be changing this page and adding more user-centric info in the
>>> coming weeks.
>>>=20
>>>> This email is to collect your feedback on the HOB. Current HOB is our=20=

>>>> first version, and it surely has many place to improve. We has the plan=
=20
>>>> to enhance it in Yocto 1.2. So we really hope that you can use it and=20=

>>>> provide your valuable feedback . We do think user's feedback/requiremen=
t=20
>>>> is the right way to go. Looking forward your valuable input.
>>>>=20
>>>> Best Regards
>>>> Ke
>>>>=20
>>>> Ps. The simple way to run hob is:
>>>> # touch conf/hob-pre.conf conf/hob-post.conf
>>>> # bitbake -u hob -r conf/hob-pre.conf -R conf/hob-post.conf
>>>=20
>>> In oe-core (and therefore Poky) we have a wrapper script so from an
>>> oe-init-build-env'd build directory you can just call hob.
>>>=20
>>> The script will create the required configuration files with some
>>> required values.
>>=20
>> Can we have it use local.conf by default please? I hate having to put the=
 same info in multiple places
>=20
> We do use local.conf in that if values are set there and not in either
> of the hob configuration files the values from local.conf are used
> however I had an explicit feature request to not modify local.conf.
>=20

In the past it would ignore DISTRO, leading to much headscratching


> I actually started looking at having Hob use an independent
> configuration file so that Hob settings would persist across build
> directories, this didn't make it in the 1.1 time frame unfortunately.
>=20
> Cheers,
> Joshua
> --=20
> Joshua Lock
>        Yocto Project "Johannes factotum"
>        Intel Open Source Technology Centre
>=20



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Op 30 sep. 2011 om 12:16 heeft Joshua Lock <josh@linux.intel.com> het volgen=
de geschreven:

> On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 11:32 -0500, Koen Kooi wrote:
>>=20
>> Op 30 sep. 2011 om 10:49 heeft Joshua Lock <josh@linux.intel.com> het vol=
gende geschreven:
>>=20
>>> On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 08:36 -0600, Yu, Ke wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>=20
>>>> As you may already know, a new GUI has been added to bitbake recently,=20=

>>>> i.e. HOB (Human Oriented Builder).=20
>>>=20
>>> It's not an acronym, it's just a name - Hob.
>>>=20
>>>> It is a graphical image creator that=20
>>>> allows user to freely choose which packages to be built in the image.=20=

>>>> The wiki https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/BitBake/GUI/Hob  has more=20=

>>>> detail.
>>>=20
>>> I'll be changing this page and adding more user-centric info in the
>>> coming weeks.
>>>=20
>>>> This email is to collect your feedback on the HOB. Current HOB is our=20=

>>>> first version, and it surely has many place to improve. We has the plan=
=20
>>>> to enhance it in Yocto 1.2. So we really hope that you can use it and=20=

>>>> provide your valuable feedback . We do think user's feedback/requiremen=
t=20
>>>> is the right way to go. Looking forward your valuable input.
>>>>=20
>>>> Best Regards
>>>> Ke
>>>>=20
>>>> Ps. The simple way to run hob is:
>>>> # touch conf/hob-pre.conf conf/hob-post.conf
>>>> # bitbake -u hob -r conf/hob-pre.conf -R conf/hob-post.conf
>>>=20
>>> In oe-core (and therefore Poky) we have a wrapper script so from an
>>> oe-init-build-env'd build directory you can just call hob.
>>>=20
>>> The script will create the required configuration files with some
>>> required values.
>>=20
>> Can we have it use local.conf by default please? I hate having to put the=
 same info in multiple places
>=20
> We do use local.conf in that if values are set there and not in either
> of the hob configuration files the values from local.conf are used
> however I had an explicit feature request to not modify local.conf.
>=20

In the past it would ignore DISTRO, leading to much headscratching


> I actually started looking at having Hob use an independent
> configuration file so that Hob settings would persist across build
> directories, this didn't make it in the 1.1 time frame unfortunately.
>=20
> Cheers,
> Joshua
> --=20
> Joshua Lock
>        Yocto Project "Johannes factotum"
>        Intel Open Source Technology Centre
>=20