From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902DEC433FE for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 10:58:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S238798AbiAQK6y (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 Jan 2022 05:58:54 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:60377 "EHLO mout.gmx.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229503AbiAQK6y (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 Jan 2022 05:58:54 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1642417124; bh=ZlkRI76O1HNMaDibceLBJ4+Yr9W5biTnm7ePlGXax8c=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=BwHcpXm3NG1Lwqd5XnmY5I13XEroXICdnIhOyAtjctLB+ZbD8AMT83sL6BLMwuMUE RNor84k7NkJGdF+BTLmzC4gwe1o5UuLxlRozF59cPDu5uduZa5pmbuDpR9J7Y5H/H1 OmZ39nqVBn86+zhnL/pJ7o+4oTUefstaX7Dd+ZLc= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.20.60] ([92.116.167.237]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MN5eX-1mqNGg3sxx-00J3u5; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 11:58:43 +0100 Message-ID: <60fad896-235c-7602-39d1-14691282ebf6@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 11:57:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.3.0 Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer Content-Language: en-US To: Jani Nikula , Daniel Vetter , Linus Torvalds , "airlied@gmail.com" Cc: linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, Javier Martinez Canillas References: <87o84a63hy.fsf@intel.com> From: Helge Deller In-Reply-To: <87o84a63hy.fsf@intel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:ebVuJl/dmLqN1DusLAVJLl1TzbN3n+pZ2TDGb0JtsNZMKjzmqgX AcrDzss4HYUU4gGfKlDiuJmsR/a5e3j0YMe9gONh2MWqf/Q+jfxq67YuTBd1YgtvBfMNWnw o75DkRCCC5uDZACJqcEHVBpW+aTxTTKUITA68CQXTvqOdI7AmgoBfwWsqtwFUAPJAdpVcbX 6qxo5uiHQle2Hy46OdqfA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:Vl7fjTBigKs=:1/42af+1H3BqrJsWlSFH/o RZfzhKKvGuIrHY0xRLqz3QObRNaNDFiE6fdTQDVod6fFYPpMDtjNNXN6oHSeb0yZU69bK3IvO QK4LY0IWHelVcWmoEdEcqLYAh0taPBWcToUbS+AOr0pwOV1G8/sUApFI5DuqBgB79HFQUg6RI +YN8qTdRlP67RmGDzy0LiSi2YyZ7EjAkzeyEy2g+4J91T35knvcXQ009d+qN7jqo/qpOThWel zz6YX+VcpzOIkzK0u19pBZwiEzrvBOzN9FpcVY7F8aBXc+xH0js1ZRNdeTsxT1EK5lHx0UnuT 5Mt1O1BgK6JtxTQfRQkyiNIMAXnNgudr18iixaTzvLbeerE4hf7yb/PITQv43pKeT+KzKOR60 13dYcHlgT+NlloWCZO41vrmrJX6PJh37g0FkGpRo3J/I26CZt9pyMDrhx+Rj4dlNCS607WZf/ PeLxGlJoZDLPqJSdCf3Y6h3+s6lxlNlkOhi7TmR2gjw6p9Fyfe5OCQ0hQPzDoE+9KCLcaBDg4 tvE1wXHot1y1ZjIi6a+95m9AxM+njeOBnsolwPNTMbAHxwM3YKsmKNBdsleC9s7nrbY1S/j34 YdmZA2aZmGo1O/ZiM1J6CgZyPGdcv8yy6rln0Xe/w2mc+6D0qlFDkSkj0WoFT1zok8RCGd4jZ wwg4VNlxdoQ0CGPjS58YWNSH7TcmShdGRusF4DJg6o3sfHKxzaETaE/zWZEJZbkG3jazelU1V bmYhgcH3d5QWKBZyIDu3izQXeL1R4q2A2WxQXPBSRSnhV3wduB2pib3Xz6F5KC/sU3CsUZw+Z 1v+SptapJKwtINPGptCvnOu/UtYx66WF8VT5w+Wq8ViYWU2xczdidoaF6DqXte5a6Jd7hDxro 1GRRRe3L1c8x0in3J5e1pEyi95mT4M1s549hvcowIuWb7Aygkd45aPIgKix9SvvYcuSW0+LGf eMvU318jN3DhQoKQib5iTD59tIUQd9u4NKuuUE1bzOsYqH3dw4w4J2hwwZsKkCgwWdufEN29L 2wi2GFjFLsWgZbYcMWS91JuXRAVlGtVxArGWPpaJXwMYcUNl/Ka4ICq8D9HecL0PCxBCrh/FE t0fka4TH4+eZ88= Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hello Jani, On 1/17/22 11:49, Jani Nikula wrote: > On Mon, 17 Jan 2022, Daniel Vetter wrote: >> Hi Helge >> >> On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 7:18 PM Helge Deller wrote: >>> >>> The fbdev layer is orphaned, but seems to need some care. >>> So I'd like to step up as new maintainer. >>> >>> Signed-off-by: Helge Deller >>> >>> diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS >>> index 5d0cd537803a..ce47dbc467cc 100644 >>> --- a/MAINTAINERS >>> +++ b/MAINTAINERS >>> @@ -7583,11 +7583,12 @@ W: http://floatingpoint.sourceforge.net/e= mulator/index.html >>> F: arch/x86/math-emu/ >>> >>> FRAMEBUFFER LAYER >>> -L: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org >>> +M: Helge Deller >>> L: linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org >>> -S: Orphan >> >> Maybe don't rush maintainer changes in over the w/e without even bother= ing >> to get any input from the people who've been maintaining it before. >> >> Because the status isn't entirely correct, fbdev core code and fbcon an= d >> all that has been maintained, but in bugfixes only mode. And there's ve= ry >> solid&important reasons to keep merging these patches through a drm tre= e, >> because that's where all the driver development happens, and hence also >> all the testing (e.g. the drm test suite has some fbdev tests - the onl= y >> automated ones that exist to my knowledge - and we run them in CI). So >> moving that into an obscure new tree which isn't even in linux-next yet= is >> no good at all. >> >> Now fbdev driver bugfixes is indeed practically orphaned and I very muc= h >> welcome anyone stepping up for that, but the simplest approach there wo= uld >> be to just get drm-misc commit rights and push the oddball bugfix in th= ere >> directly. But also if you want to do your own pull requests to Linus fo= r >> that I don't care and there's really no interference I think, so >> whatever floats. >> >> But any code that is relevant for drm drivers really needs to go in thr= ough >> drm trees, nothing else makes much sense. >> >> I guess you're first action as newly minted fbdev maintainer is going t= o be to >> clean up the confusion you just created. > > As much as I like folks stepping up as maintainers, I've got to say this > is not a style I appreciate at all. > > Thursday: Object a recent fbdev change [1]. > > Friday: Step up as fbdev maintainer, change git tree (this thread) [2]. > > Sunday: Send the maintainer change to Linus [3]. > > Later Sunday: Start reverting the changes objected to on Thursday, with > no discussion, no acks, no reviews, in the new git tree [4]. > > Monday: Continue reverting the changes [5]. > > I'm heavily in favor of maintainers who are open, transparent, > collaborative, who seek consensus through discussion, and only put their > foot down when required. > > I really don't like the optics here. I'd expect some pretty good > explanations. Jani, please don't worry! I've started to sort things out, to work through the existing backlog of patches (which is a LOT!) and nothing has been pushed yet. I've seen the other mails and we will discuss. So, please just ignore the current state of the linux-fbdev tree for now. Helge