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From: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	Glauber Costa <glommer@redhat.com>,
	Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 0/22] Refactor machine support
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 23:05:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6110090C-2586-4CA0-BEDD-FDF4C6C2072E@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C0E6CB2.20507@codemonkey.ws>


On 08.06.2010, at 18:15, Anthony Liguori wrote:

> 
>> 4) expose everything to the user, at the cost of regretting it later. This is the current patchset.
>> 
>> 
>> One "smart way to implement default devices" could be an inclusion mechanism where a machine can ask qemu to read other config files.  Then you'd have config files for the default serial/parallel/etc.  This could also be implemented on top of choices 2/3/4 though.
> 
> Default devices are a real pain.  Fortunately, we only mess with it in s390 so I'm fairly certain we can simplify things considerable.  It's just not something I wanted to tackle in this series.

Wait, what? The only "default" device we have on s390 is virtio-console - and that's basically the same as having VGA output on x86 enabled by default, no?

But either way, I agree that we should make things easy for 99% of the users. And taking incremental improvements is useful too. pc.c as it is right now can only be improved, no matter what you do with it.


Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-08 21:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-07 23:51 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/22] Refactor machine support Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/22] QemuOpts: fix a bug in QemuOpts when setting an option twice Anthony Liguori
2010-06-08  7:51   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-06-08 10:32     ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-06-08 13:07       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-08 13:44         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-06-08 15:17           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-08 15:37             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-06-08 16:04               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-09  7:01                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-06-08 14:38         ` Paul Brook
2010-06-08 15:14           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/22] QemuOpts: make qemu_opts_validate() store the description list for later use Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/22] QemuOpts: add function to set QemuOpts from defaults Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/22] machine: package all init arguments into a QemuOpts (v2) Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/22] machine: pass all init options as a single QemuOpts Anthony Liguori
2010-06-08  7:58   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-06-07 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/22] Make -acpi-enable a machine specific option Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/22] machine: introduce -machine option Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/22] machine: implement -kernel/-append/-initrd options in term of -machine Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/22] machine: implement -m in terms " Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/22] machine: allow boards to specify default values and use it in isapc Anthony Liguori
2010-06-08  8:03   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-06-08 13:09     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-08 13:29       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-06-07 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/22] machine: replace compat_props with opts_default Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/22] machine: some sugary macros to simplify machine default options Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/22] machine: get rid of global default QEMUMachine members Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/22] machine: replace QEMUMachine.use_scsi with -machine default_drive Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/22] machine: make max_cpus a -machine option Anthony Liguori
2010-06-08  1:01   ` Paul Brook
2010-06-08  1:56     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-08  2:56       ` Paul Brook
2010-06-09  7:44       ` Jes Sorensen
2010-06-09  7:47   ` Jes Sorensen
2010-06-07 23:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/22] machine: move default machine out of machine definitions Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/22] machine: kill machine->alias Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/22] machine: final conversion to pure QemuOpts Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/22] machine: introduce accel option to allow selection of kvm or tcg Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 20/22] machine: introduce machine core and split qemu_register_machine Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 21/22] machine: convert pc machines to split core vs machine API Anthony Liguori
2010-06-09  7:51   ` Jes Sorensen
2010-06-07 23:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 22/22] machine: introduce -machine-def option to define a machine via config Anthony Liguori
2010-06-08  0:50   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-10 17:48     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-06-11 13:03       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-06-08  3:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/22] Refactor machine support Paul Brook
2010-06-08 10:24   ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-06-08 14:30     ` Paul Brook
2010-06-08 15:28       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-08 15:36         ` Paul Brook
2010-06-08 15:58           ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-06-08 16:15             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-08 21:05               ` Alexander Graf [this message]
2010-06-08 21:16                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-08 17:23             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-09  2:11             ` Paul Brook
2010-06-09 13:55               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-09 14:30                 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-09 20:47                   ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-09 20:52                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-09 21:09                       ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-09 22:26                       ` Paul Brook
2010-06-08 14:04   ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
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2010-06-08 14:49 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini

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