From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [64.62.194.115] (helo=netgate.com) by linuxtogo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HHT0N-0004w6-8h for openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 23:53:39 +0100 Received: from [192.168.2.198] (rrcs-67-52-77-54.west.biz.rr.com [67.52.77.54]) by netgate.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B1B228006A; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:53:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <45D38F2C.1030700@dominion.kabel.utwente.nl> References: <1171051575.3886.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200702141311.17165.openembedded@hrw.one.pl> <1171489223.1692.501.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1171489873.11033.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45D38BB9.5070709@am.sony.com> <96763D62-00DF-440D-8688-E237E1CE0BB8@netgate.com> <45D38F2C.1030700@dominion.kabel.utwente.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Message-Id: <6385CB83-3092-471F-B579-BDD8A2A65133@netgate.com> From: Jim Thompson Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:53:21 -1000 To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Cc: openembedded-devel@openembedded.org Subject: Re: OE Booth during fosdem X-BeenThere: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org List-Id: Using the OpenEmbedded metadata to build Distributions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:53:40 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Feb 14, 2007, at 12:37 PM, Koen Kooi wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Jim Thompson schreef: >> Ya know, I'd consider donating hardware (see www.netgate.com for what >> we have) and/or cash if someone would put up a >> "build the bootable ISO so you can boot-n-install an OE image on a >> HD on ye-olde-random PeeCee" set of patches, or even a recipe for >> same >> >> Or, equivalently, an image (complete with boot sector) that one could >> DD onto a CF card or actual IDE drive that would boot a given root >> image on ye-olde-PeeCee. >> >> OpenEmbedded would go a lot faster if people could experiment on >> garden-variety PCs rather than go through the "fun" of getting it up- >> n-running on more esoteric hardware. > > Marcin, Jamie, Phil, Gerwin and I are using OE to build for vairous > x86 machines > (MACHINE={guinness,epia,x86). For some graphic pleasure: > http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/cms/madness I know about the guinness and wrap MACHINEs. What I'm looking for is a short-cut to getting a distro *onto* the disk. Yes, I'm sure most people could "figure it out" with some time and effort, but what I want is to make it easier. If OE would build an x86 disk image that could be 'dd'-ed to a CF card, then building OE images for Soekris or WRAP boards would be EZ. If OE would build an x86 disk image that could be 'dd'-ed to an IDE drive (likely the same as above), then building OE images for "ordinary PCs" would be trivial. If OE would build a bootable ISO image that could partition and label an attached IDE drive, then install the image *onto* that drive, .... well, I could see all *sorts* of uses for that. And I'm willing to throw cash, hardware and time at this. Yes, we sell WRAP boards, but I'm not looking to get a bunch-o-free development out of the process. (We sell a Gateworks ixp42x board too, just to be perfectly honest.) Years ago, I ran (and owned) 'musenki' (google for it or look here: http://he-colo.netgate.com/~jim/Musenki/. We had build a set of Motorola 8245/8241 boards, and I'd made linux run on them. I remember spending a horrific amount of time with a (very) early version of "buildroot". OE is so much more sophisticated that I'm a bit taken aback. The OE learning curve is still quite steep, but I think it would be less steep with a) a bit more documentation and b) an EZ way to start creating "little distros" that run on PCs using it. Jim