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From: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
To: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, armbru@redhat.com, eblake@redhat.com,
	jsnow@redhat.com, famz@redhat.com, den@openvz.org,
	stefanha@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/22] block: introduce persistent dirty bitmaps
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 20:24:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <63fd930b-b6b7-d866-a900-ef3ccf1ca7bd@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57FCE513.3070700@virtuozzo.com>

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On 11.10.2016 15:11, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
> On 07.10.2016 20:54, Max Reitz wrote:
>> On 30.09.2016 12:53, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
>>> New field BdrvDirtyBitmap.persistent means, that bitmap should be saved
>>> on bdrv_close, using format driver. Format driver should maintain bitmap
>>> storing.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
>>> ---
>>>   block.c                      | 30 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>   block/dirty-bitmap.c         | 27 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>   block/qcow2-bitmap.c         |  1 +
>>>   include/block/block.h        |  2 ++
>>>   include/block/block_int.h    |  2 ++
>>>   include/block/dirty-bitmap.h |  6 ++++++
>>>   6 files changed, 68 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/block.c b/block.c
>>> index 804e3d4..1cde03a 100644
>>> --- a/block.c
>>> +++ b/block.c
>>> @@ -2196,6 +2196,7 @@ void bdrv_reopen_abort(BDRVReopenState
>>> *reopen_state)
>>>   static void bdrv_close(BlockDriverState *bs)
>>>   {
>>>       BdrvAioNotifier *ban, *ban_next;
>>> +    Error *local_err = NULL;
>>>         assert(!bs->job);
>>>       assert(!bs->refcnt);
>>> @@ -2204,6 +2205,10 @@ static void bdrv_close(BlockDriverState *bs)
>>>       bdrv_flush(bs);
>>>       bdrv_drain(bs); /* in case flush left pending I/O */
>>>   +    bdrv_store_persistent_bitmaps(bs, &local_err);
>>> +    if (local_err != NULL) {
>>> +        error_report_err(local_err);
>>> +    }
>> That seems pretty wrong to me. If the persistent bitmaps cannot be
>> stored, the node should not be closed to avoid loss of data.
>>
>>>       bdrv_release_named_dirty_bitmaps(bs);
>> Especially since the next function will just drop all the dirty bitmaps.
>>
>> I see the issue that bdrv_close() is only called by bdrv_delete() which
>> in turn is only called by bdrv_unref(); and how are you supposed to
>> react to bdrv_unref() failing?
>>
>> So I'm not sure how this issue should be addressed, but this is most
>> certainly not ideal. You should not just drop supposedly persistent
>> dirty bitmaps if they cannot be saved.
>>
>> We really should to have some way to keep the bitmap around if it cannot
>> be saved, but I don't know how to do that either.
>>
>> In any case, we should make sure that the node supports saving
>> persistent dirty bitmaps, because having persistent dirty bitmaps at a
>> node that does not support them is something we can and must prevent
>> beforehand.
>>
>> But I don't know how to handle failure if writing the dirty bitmap
>> fails. I guess one could argue that it's the same as bdrv_flush()
>> failing and thus can be handled in the same way, i.e. ignore it. I'm not
>> happy with that, but I'd accept it if there's no other way.
> 
> For now, the only usage of these bitmaps is incremental backup and
> bitmaps are not critical data. If we lost them we will just do full
> backup. If there will be some critical persistent bdrv dirty bitmaps in
> future, we can introduce a callback BdrvDirtyBitmap.store_failed for
> them, which will somehow handle that case.. Detach bitmap from bs and
> save it in memory, add qmp commands to raw-dump them, etc.. I

Yes, fine with me. Still, we should make an effort to detect the case
that some block driver will not be able to store a certain persistent
bitmap attached to one of its nodes as early as possible, ideally
already when the bitmap is created.

Max


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  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-12 18:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-30 10:53 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 00/22] qcow2: persistent dirty bitmaps Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-09-30 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/22] hbitmap: improve dirty iter Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-01 13:52   ` Max Reitz
2016-09-30 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/22] tests: add hbitmap iter test Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-01 14:02   ` Max Reitz
2016-09-30 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/22] block: fix bdrv_dirty_bitmap_granularity signature Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-09-30 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/22] block/dirty-bitmap: add deserialize_ones func Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-09-30 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/22] qcow2-bitmap: structs and consts Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-01 14:34   ` Max Reitz
2016-10-01 14:56     ` Max Reitz
2016-10-07 13:11     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-11 11:50     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-12 18:20       ` Max Reitz
2016-09-30 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/22] qcow2: add dirty bitmaps extension Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-01 14:46   ` Max Reitz
2016-10-11 12:09     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-12 18:21       ` Max Reitz
2016-10-13 12:18         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-09-30 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/22] qcow2-bitmap: introduce auto-loading bitmaps Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-01 16:26   ` Max Reitz
2016-10-14 18:44     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-15 17:03       ` Max Reitz
2016-10-15 17:22         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-20 12:22     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-21 19:49       ` Max Reitz
2016-10-07 19:25   ` Max Reitz
2016-10-21 11:59     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-21 19:56       ` Max Reitz
2016-09-30 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/22] block/dirty-bitmap: add autoload field to BdrvDirtyBitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-07 17:05   ` Max Reitz
2016-09-30 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/22] block: introduce persistent dirty bitmaps Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-07 17:54   ` Max Reitz
2016-10-11 13:11     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-12 18:24       ` Max Reitz [this message]
2016-10-07 19:28   ` Max Reitz
2016-10-12 11:38     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-12 12:30       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-12 18:25         ` Max Reitz
2016-09-30 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/22] block/dirty-bitmap: add bdrv_dirty_bitmap_next() Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-07 18:11   ` Max Reitz
2016-09-30 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/22] qcow2-bitmap: add qcow2_store_persistent_bitmaps() Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-07 19:24   ` Max Reitz
2016-10-13 16:48     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-15 16:40       ` Max Reitz
2016-10-17 17:19     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-21 19:44       ` Max Reitz
2016-10-21 21:04         ` Eric Blake
2016-10-17 17:57   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-17 17:58     ` [Qemu-devel] DROP THIS " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-09-30 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/22] qcow2-bitmap: add IN_USE flag Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-07 19:44   ` Max Reitz
2016-10-21 15:34     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-21 19:58       ` Max Reitz
2016-10-24 10:32         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-24 11:35           ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-24 17:08             ` Max Reitz
2016-10-24 17:18               ` Max Reitz
2016-10-25 10:53                 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-26  9:04                   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-26  9:21                     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-26 12:13                       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-26 13:02                         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-26 15:28                     ` Max Reitz
2016-11-07 16:12                   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-11-07 16:18                     ` Max Reitz
2016-10-24 16:54           ` Max Reitz
2016-09-30 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/22] qcow2-bitmap: check constraints Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-07 19:54   ` Max Reitz
2016-09-30 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/22] qcow2: delete bitmaps on truncate Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-07 19:58   ` Max Reitz
2016-09-30 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/22] qcow2-bitmap: add autoclear bit Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-07 20:11   ` Max Reitz
2016-10-24 14:25     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-24 17:21       ` Max Reitz
2016-09-30 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/22] qmp: add persistent flag to block-dirty-bitmap-add Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-07 19:52   ` Eric Blake
2016-10-24 14:44     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-10 16:08   ` Max Reitz
2016-10-24 15:12     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-24 17:30       ` Max Reitz
2016-10-25 11:05         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-09-30 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/22] qmp: add autoload parameter " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-07 19:53   ` Eric Blake
2016-10-10 16:25   ` Max Reitz
2016-10-24 15:55     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-09-30 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/22] qapi: add md5 checksum of last dirty bitmap level to query-block Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-10 16:44   ` Max Reitz
2016-10-10 17:03     ` Max Reitz
2016-10-10 19:22       ` Eric Blake
2016-09-30 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/22] iotests: test qcow2 persistent dirty bitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-10 17:04   ` Max Reitz
2016-09-30 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 20/22] qcow2-dirty-bitmap: refcounts Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-10 17:59   ` Max Reitz
2016-09-30 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 21/22] specs/qcow2: fix bitmap granularity qemu-specific note Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-07 20:18   ` Eric Blake
2016-11-09 16:43     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-09-30 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 22/22] specs/qcow2: do not use wording 'bitmap header' Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-10-07 20:20   ` Eric Blake
2016-10-01 13:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 00/22] qcow2: persistent dirty bitmaps Max Reitz
2016-10-13 18:11   ` John Snow

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