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From: "Jin, Yao" <yao.jin@linux.intel.com>
To: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
Cc: jolsa@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com, Linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	ak@linux.intel.com, kan.liang@intel.com, yao.jin@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/6] perf record: Get the first sample time and last sample time
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2017 08:28:16 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <640d3119-c695-d975-ce59-d986172b48c4@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171104102421.GA7511@krava>



On 11/4/2017 6:24 PM, Jiri Olsa wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 03, 2017 at 01:29:42PM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
>> Em Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 09:16:59AM +0200, Jiri Olsa escreveu:
>>> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:03:05AM +0800, Jin, Yao wrote:
>>>
>>> SNIP
>>>
>>>>> hum, could you still unset the sample if there's no time given?
>>>>> and keep the speed in this case..
>>>>>
>>>>> jirka
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Jiri,
>>>>
>>>> I check this question again. The '--time' option is for perf report but not
>>>> for perf record.
>>>>
>>>> For perf record, we have to always walk on all samples to get the time of
>>>> first sample and the time of last sample whatever buildid_all is enabled or
>>>> not enabled. So 'rec->tool.sample = NULL' is removed.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, the previous mail was replied at midnight, I was drowsy. :(
>>>>
>>>> If my answer is correct, I will not send v6. If my understanding is still
>>>> not correct, please let me know.
>>>
>>> right, I did not realize we store this unconditionaly.. then yes, it's ok
>>
>> And should we store this unconditionally? What this patch is doing is
>> making 'perf record' unconditionally slower so that the generated
>> perf.data file becomes useful for some usecases, but not for all, only
>> people interested in using 'perf report/script --time' will benefit,
>> right?
> 
> maybe we can also silently enable that when processing buildids,
> (which is set by default), there's no big performance hit once
> we already go through samples
> 
> jirka
> 

It's a good idea. Default enabling --timestamps in perf record since 
buildids is enabled by default as well.

But if buildids is not enabled, then it needs to check if --timestamps 
is enabled. I will follow this rule in v6.

Thanks
Jin Yao

>>
>> I thought that we could get this sorted out in a different fashion, i.e.
>> getting the first timestamp is easy, even if we don't process build-ids,
>> right? To get the last one we could ask the kernel to insert an extra
>> dummy sample at the end, one that we know the size and thus can to to
>> the end of the file, rewind that size, get the event and parse the
>> sample, agreed?
>>
>> So I suggest that first make this conditional, i.e. 'perf record
>> --timestamps' will enable the logic you implemented, and as a followup,
>> if you agree, add the dummy, known size event at the end, and then even
>> when build-ids are not processed, the cost for getting the timestamps
>> will be next to zero.
>>
>> - Arnaldo
>>
>> - Arnaldo
>>   
>>> I think I've already acked this, anyway for the patchset:
>>>
>>> Acked-by: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> jirka

  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-06  0:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-20 23:27 [PATCH v5 0/6] perf report/script: Support percent and multiple range in --time option Jin Yao
2017-10-20 23:27 ` [PATCH v5 1/6] perf header: Record first sample time and last sample time in perf file header Jin Yao
2017-10-20 23:27 ` [PATCH v5 2/6] perf record: Get the first sample time and last sample time Jin Yao
2017-10-23 15:04   ` Jiri Olsa
2017-10-23 17:38     ` Jin, Yao
2017-10-23 19:05       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2017-10-24  2:03     ` Jin, Yao
2017-10-24  7:16       ` Jiri Olsa
2017-10-24  7:29         ` Jin, Yao
2017-11-03 13:00         ` Jin, Yao
2017-11-03 16:29         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2017-11-03 21:33           ` Jin, Yao
2017-11-04 10:24           ` Jiri Olsa
2017-11-06  0:28             ` Jin, Yao [this message]
2017-10-20 23:27 ` [PATCH v5 3/6] perf util: Create function to parse time percent Jin Yao
2017-10-20 23:27 ` [PATCH v5 4/6] perf util: Create function to perform multiple time range checking Jin Yao
2017-10-20 23:27 ` [PATCH v5 5/6] perf report: support time percent and multiple time ranges Jin Yao
2017-10-20 23:27 ` [PATCH v5 6/6] perf script: " Jin Yao

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