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From: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com>
To: Jacopo Mondi <jacopo@jmondi.org>
Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org, sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com,
	Jacopo Mondi <jacopo+renesas@jmondi.org>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	niklas.soderlund+renesas@ragnatech.se,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Hans Verkuil <hverkuil-cisco@xs4all.nl>,
	Pratyush Yadav <p.yadav@ti.com>,
	Lokesh Vutla <lokeshvutla@ti.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 03/36] media: subdev: add 'which' to subdev state
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 17:26:45 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <656577a3-b783-0272-4809-20169b84e891@ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210913133841.nck65h2ft4hfnbg5@uno.localdomain>

On 13/09/2021 16:38, Jacopo Mondi wrote:
> Hi Tomi,
> 
> On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 03:17:01PM +0300, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
>> On 13/09/2021 14:41, Jacopo Mondi wrote:
>>> Hi Tomi,
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 02:00:43PM +0300, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
>>>> The subdev state is passed to functions in the media drivers, and
>>>> usually either V4L2_SUBDEV_FORMAT_ACTIVE or V4L2_SUBDEV_FORMAT_TRY is
>>>> also given to the function in one way or another.
>>>>
>>>> One op where this is not the case is v4l2_subdev_pad_ops.init_cfg. One
>>>> could argue that the initialization of the state should be the same for
>>>> both ACTIVE and TRY cases, but unfortunately that is not the case:
>>>>
>>>> - Some drivers do also other things than just touch the state when
>>>> dealing with ACTIVE, e.g. if there is extra state outside the standard
>>>> subdev state.
>>>> - Some drivers might need to create, say, struct v4l2_subdev_format
>>>> which has 'which' field, and that needs to be filled with either ACTIVE
>>>> or TRY.
>>>>
>>>> Currently init_cfg is only called for TRY case from the v4l2 framework,
>>>> passing the TRY state. Some drivers call their own init_cfg, passing
>>>> NULL as the state, which is used to indicate ACTIVE case.
>>>>
>>>> In the future we want to pass subdev's active state from the v4l2
>>>> framework side, so we need a solution to this.
>>>>
>>>> We could change the init_cfg() to include the TRY/ACTIVE value, which
>>>> would require changing more or less all the drivers. Instead, I have
>>>> added 'which' field to the subdev state itself, filled at state
>>>> allocation time, which only requires changes to the drivers that
>>>> allocate a state themselves.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>    drivers/media/platform/rcar-vin/rcar-v4l2.c |  2 +-
>>>>    drivers/media/platform/vsp1/vsp1_entity.c   |  2 +-
>>>>    drivers/media/v4l2-core/v4l2-subdev.c       | 10 +++++++---
>>>>    drivers/staging/media/tegra-video/vi.c      |  2 +-
>>>>    include/media/v4l2-subdev.h                 |  7 ++++++-
>>>>    5 files changed, 16 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/drivers/media/platform/rcar-vin/rcar-v4l2.c b/drivers/media/platform/rcar-vin/rcar-v4l2.c
>>>> index 5f4fa8c48f68..1de30d5b437f 100644
>>>> --- a/drivers/media/platform/rcar-vin/rcar-v4l2.c
>>>> +++ b/drivers/media/platform/rcar-vin/rcar-v4l2.c
>>>> @@ -252,7 +252,7 @@ static int rvin_try_format(struct rvin_dev *vin, u32 which,
>>>>    	u32 width, height;
>>>>    	int ret;
>>>>
>>>> -	sd_state = v4l2_alloc_subdev_state(sd);
>>>> +	sd_state = v4l2_alloc_subdev_state(sd, V4L2_SUBDEV_FORMAT_ACTIVE);
>>>
>>> Shouldn't the 'which' parameters be used to decide if either ACTIVE or
>>> TRY have to be used ? this function is also used to set TRY formats,
>>> in example...
>>>
>>> Oh, maybe I got how it works, the state's which is not
>>> relevant but the v4l2_subdev_format's which is, as it will be used in
>>> the next patch to decide if the subdev's state of the file-handle's
>>> state should be passed to the ioctl.
>>
>> Yes. It's messy, but it's how it worked before also.
>>
>> The drivers can't really allocate TRY state as it must come from the core,
>> based on the filehandle. Now as I say that, makes me wonder why even expose
>> the option to drivers. Maybe v4l2_alloc_subdev_state() should take just the
>> sd parameter, and always allocate ACTIVE state, and the v4l2 core can use
>> another way to create the TRY state.
>>
> 
> init_cfg() as well as other operations used to received an
> array of per fh's pad_configs, and the sd pointer itself. The fh's pad
> configs were allocated by the core, as well as the core now allocates
> the per-fh's state.
> 
> Before the introduction of 'state', if the 'which' flags was set to
> TRY then information were stored/retrieved/initialized in the per-fh
> pad_config, otherwise the active configuration (usually stored in the
> driver main structure) was used.
> 
> So we had a clear separation of per-fh information and the active
> state. The core didn't care afaict, and passed in both, then driver had
> to deal with them doing the right thing by inspecting the 'which' flag.
> 
> The typical pattern was:
> 
>          static int subdev_ops(sd, pad_cfg, which)
>          {
>                  if (which == TRY)
>                          /* Operate on config stored in pad_cfg */
> 
>                  else
>                          /*
>                           * Operate on config stored in subdev (and
>                           * applied to HW)
>                           */
>          }
> 
> Or am I overlooking some cases or do you agree with my understanding
> so far ?

More or less, yes. I think there are (used to be) three kinds of ops:

- Ops that get pad_cfg and 'which' in an op specific struct. E.g. 
set_fmt. The pad_cfg is TRY pad_config, even if 'which' == ACTIVE.

- Ops that don't get pad_cfg, like s_stream. 'which' is implicitly ACTIVE.

- init_cfg which gets pad_cfg, but no which (as 'which' is always 
implicitly TRY)

So pad_cfg was TRY state. Drivers could use pad_configs internally to 
track ACTIVE state, but the core had no knowledge about this.

> Now we have a 'state' that holds the array of pad_configs and along
> the continuation of the series will end up holding per-pad
> configurations.
> 
> We now also have one 'state' per file-handle, and one
> per-subdev. As I see this, it would be natual for drivers to receive
> one state without knowing where it comes from. In the next patch you

Note that only subdev's that explicitly support the new state code, and 
allocate the state, have the subdev active state. Which means only the 
drivers in my work branch.

The "old" drivers work like they used to: they get the state 
(essentially repackaged pad_cfg) for TRY cases, NULL otherwise.

And yes, it would be natural to just get a state, but the subdev drivers 
need to know if the context is TRY/ACTIVE. As you can see from the 
bullet list above, the driver knows this in all the other places except 
init_cfg.

> instrument the core to do exactly this: inspect the which flag and
> pass in the 'right' state. Ofc drivers need to have access to 'which'
> to know if they have to apply settings to the HW or not.
> 
> Looking ahead in your series I see these structures:
> 
>          struct v4l2_subdev_pad_config {
>                  struct v4l2_mbus_framefmt try_fmt;
>                  struct v4l2_rect try_crop;
>                  struct v4l2_rect try_compose;
>          };
> 
>          struct v4l2_subdev_stream_config {
>                  u32 pad;
>                  u32 stream;
> 
>                  struct v4l2_mbus_framefmt fmt;
>                  struct v4l2_rect crop;
>                  struct v4l2_rect compose;
>          };
> 
>          struct v4l2_subdev_stream_configs {
>                  u32 num_configs;
>                  struct v4l2_subdev_stream_config *configs;
>          };
> 
> All of them part of state:
> 
> struct v4l2_subdev_state {
> 	struct mutex lock;
> 	u32 which;
> 	struct v4l2_subdev_pad_config *pads;
> 	struct v4l2_subdev_krouting routing;
> 	struct v4l2_subdev_stream_configs stream_configs;
> };
> 
> So 'state' will hold 'TRY' information (only used for 'state'
> instances allocated in the fh) and 'ACTIVE' ones (used for states
> allocated in the sd).

Right.

> Looking at 'v4l2_subdev_pad_config' and 'v4l2_subdev_stream_config' they
> seem to describe more or less the same things: fmt, crop and compose
> (per pad-stream in case of stream_config). I wonder if those shouldn't
> be unified so that:
> 
> 1) Drivers receive one state: the core passes in the 'correct' one
> (per-fh or per-sd) as you do in next patch

Yes. But note that "old" drivers don't have active state.

> 2) The 'which' information is not stored in the state but it's only
> 'contextual' (as in a parameter to the subdev operation) so that
> drivers inspect it to know if they have to apply settings to hw or not

Yes, except we have init_cfg...

> 3) v4l2_subdev_pad_config can be re-used and expanded, to maintain per-pad
> configurations regardless if they're ACTIVE or TRY, as this only depends
> on where the state is stored.

pad_config is a static array of per-pad configs. stream_configs is a 
dynamic per-stream config. stream_configs is a super-set of pad-configs, 
so we could drop pad_configs, but it would require changing all the 
drivers in non-trivial ways.

v4l2_subdev_pad_config is not used or even allocated by the "new" 
drivers. And routing & stream_configs are not used by the "old" drivers.

> As I immagine it a subdev pad operation could look like:
> 
>          static int subdev_op(sd, pad, state, which, ...)
>          {
>                  /* Doesn't matter if state is per-fh or the sd one. */
>                  state->pads[pad].fmt = ....;
> 
>                  if (which == TRY)
>                          return;
> 
>                  /* Apply to the HW. */
>          }
> 
> Does it make any sense to you ? I might have missed some reason why
> this is not possible.

It makes sense, but there are the buts =). I've tried to explain these 
in the commit messages, but it's kind of confusing.

One but I haven't mentioned in the emails is that when subdev drivers 
call ops in other subdev drivers they pass NULL in the state. This is 
fine for the "old" drivers, as they expect a state only for TRY case. 
However, the "new" drivers unfortunately expect to get a state on both 
TRY and ACTIVE cases, and the only sensible way I figured out to handle 
this was the v4l2_subdev_validate_state() function (patch 6).

So, all this could be much neater, but would require modifying all 
subdev drivers in non-trivial ways. I think this is something that can 
be done slowly in the future.

>>>>    	if (IS_ERR(sd_state))
>>>>    		return PTR_ERR(sd_state);
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/drivers/media/platform/vsp1/vsp1_entity.c b/drivers/media/platform/vsp1/vsp1_entity.c
>>>> index e40bca254b8b..63ea5e472c33 100644
>>>> --- a/drivers/media/platform/vsp1/vsp1_entity.c
>>>> +++ b/drivers/media/platform/vsp1/vsp1_entity.c
>>>> @@ -675,7 +675,7 @@ int vsp1_entity_init(struct vsp1_device *vsp1, struct vsp1_entity *entity,
>>>>    	 * Allocate the pad configuration to store formats and selection
>>>>    	 * rectangles.
>>>>    	 */
>>>> -	entity->config = v4l2_alloc_subdev_state(&entity->subdev);
>>>> +	entity->config = v4l2_alloc_subdev_state(&entity->subdev, V4L2_SUBDEV_FORMAT_ACTIVE);
>>>>    	if (IS_ERR(entity->config)) {
>>>>    		media_entity_cleanup(&entity->subdev.entity);
>>>>    		return PTR_ERR(entity->config);
>>>> diff --git a/drivers/media/v4l2-core/v4l2-subdev.c b/drivers/media/v4l2-core/v4l2-subdev.c
>>>> index e1a794f69815..04ad319fb150 100644
>>>> --- a/drivers/media/v4l2-core/v4l2-subdev.c
>>>> +++ b/drivers/media/v4l2-core/v4l2-subdev.c
>>>> @@ -28,7 +28,7 @@ static int subdev_fh_init(struct v4l2_subdev_fh *fh, struct v4l2_subdev *sd)
>>>>    {
>>>>    	struct v4l2_subdev_state *state;
>>>>
>>>> -	state = v4l2_alloc_subdev_state(sd);
>>>> +	state = v4l2_alloc_subdev_state(sd, V4L2_SUBDEV_FORMAT_TRY);
>>>
>>> At the same time I'm not sure I get the purpose of this. Don't
>>> init_cfg() callback implementations deal with try formats themeselves
>>> ? I mean, it's not a fixed rule, they can as well initialize their
>>> default 'active' formats, but what matters is that they initialize
>>> their per-fh try states ?
>>
>> That is what they do currently. init_cfg() only deals with TRY state, as
>> that's the only "state" (i.e. pad_config) there used to be from v4l2 core's
>> perspective.
>>
>>> Shouldn't init_cfg receive the fh's state so that it can initialize
>>> it, and just in case they need to, access their subdev's state and
>>> initialize them ? I'm missing what the purpose of the flag is tbh.
>>
>> Now we have (a possibility to have) state for both TRY and ACTIVE on the
>> v4l2 core side. The active state has to be initialized also, and a logical
>> way to do that is to use the init_cfg().
> 
> The 'ACTIVE' state is stored in the subdev, to which init_cfg() has
> access, and it receives the 'TRY' state as a parameter.

No, init_cfg gets either ACTIVE or TRY state, whichever is being 
allocated. For "old" drivers, ACTIVE state is never allocated so they 
don't get init_cfg calls for ACTIVE at all.

Aaand while writing that, I realized that some drivers manually do 
allocate ACTIVE state temporarily, which would cause init_cfg with 
ACTIVE state to be called. I wonder if they explode... Need to check.

> It is possible to access both states and initialize them properly if
> I'm not mistaken.
> 
>>
>> So now, for drivers that support the new active state, init_cfg() can get
>> either TRY or ACTIVE state. And if you want to call, say, the driver's
>> set_routing() to setup the routing in the state, you have to set the 'which'
>> in the routing struct to a value. So somehow init_cfg needs to know if it's
>> initializing an ACTIVE or TRY state.
> 
> I'm not sure I got this part. set_routing() as other ops will receive
> a state and 'which'. If my proposal above makes sensem where the state

Yes, but if it's init_cfg calling set_routing, init_cfg has to figure 
out the 'which' from somewhere.

E.g. init_cfg from ub913 driver:

static int ub913_init_cfg(struct v4l2_subdev *sd,
			  struct v4l2_subdev_state *state)
{
	u32 which = state->which;

	struct v4l2_subdev_route routes[] = {
		{
			.sink_pad = 0,
			.sink_stream = 0,
			.source_pad = 1,
			.source_stream = 0,
			.flags = V4L2_SUBDEV_ROUTE_FL_ACTIVE,
		},
	};

	struct v4l2_subdev_krouting routing = {
		.which = which,
		.num_routes = ARRAY_SIZE(routes),
		.routes = routes,
	};

	return ub913_set_routing(sd, state, &routing);
}

It uses set_routing to setup a default routing (and set_routing in turn 
also initializes the formats), but set_routing needs 'which'.

  Tomi

  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-13 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-30 11:00 [PATCH v8 00/36] v4l: subdev internal routing and streams Tomi Valkeinen
2021-08-30 11:00 ` [PATCH v8 01/36] media: subdev: rename subdev-state alloc & free Tomi Valkeinen
2021-09-26 23:06   ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-09-27  6:38     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2021-08-30 11:00 ` [PATCH v8 02/36] media: subdev: add active state to struct v4l2_subdev Tomi Valkeinen
2021-09-13 10:57   ` Jacopo Mondi
2021-09-13 12:00     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2021-09-15  9:44   ` Jacopo Mondi
2021-09-16  6:17     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2021-09-16  6:52       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2021-09-16  8:08         ` Jacopo Mondi
2021-09-16  9:36           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2021-09-26 23:58             ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-09-27  7:05               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2021-09-27  9:39                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-09-28  5:14                   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2021-09-28 12:33                     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2021-09-29 15:41                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-08-30 11:00 ` [PATCH v8 03/36] media: subdev: add 'which' to subdev state Tomi Valkeinen
2021-09-13 11:41   ` Jacopo Mondi
2021-09-13 12:17     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2021-09-13 13:38       ` Jacopo Mondi
2021-09-13 14:26         ` Tomi Valkeinen [this message]
2021-09-16 13:07           ` Jacopo Mondi
2021-09-16 13:24             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2021-09-27  0:48               ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-09-27  8:55                 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2021-09-27 10:49                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-09-27  0:46             ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-09-27  8:35               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2021-09-27 10:01                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-08-30 11:00 ` [PATCH v8 04/36] media: subdev: pass also the active state to subdevs from ioctls Tomi Valkeinen
2021-09-15 10:17   ` Jacopo Mondi
2021-09-16  6:44     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2021-09-16  8:02       ` Jacopo Mondi
2021-09-16  8:43         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2021-09-27  1:13           ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-08-30 11:00 ` [PATCH v8 05/36] media: subdev: add subdev state locking Tomi Valkeinen
2021-09-27  1:35   ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-09-27  9:49     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2021-09-27 10:06       ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-08-30 11:00 ` [PATCH v8 06/36] media: subdev: Add v4l2_subdev_validate(_and_lock)_state() Tomi Valkeinen
2021-09-27  1:45   ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-09-28  5:02     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2021-09-28  7:52       ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-09-29 15:35         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2021-09-29 15:39           ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-08-30 11:00 ` [PATCH v8 07/36] media: Documentation: add documentation about subdev state Tomi Valkeinen
2021-08-30 11:00 ` [PATCH v8 08/36] media: entity: Use pad as a starting point for graph walk Tomi Valkeinen
2021-08-30 11:00 ` [PATCH v8 09/36] media: entity: Use pads instead of entities in the media graph walk stack Tomi Valkeinen
2021-08-30 11:00 ` [PATCH v8 10/36] media: entity: Walk the graph based on pads Tomi Valkeinen
2021-08-30 11:00 ` [PATCH v8 11/36] media: mc: Start walk from a specific pad in use count calculation Tomi Valkeinen
2021-08-30 11:00 ` [PATCH v8 12/36] media: entity: Add iterator helper for entity pads Tomi Valkeinen
2021-08-30 11:00 ` [PATCH v8 13/36] media: entity: Move the pipeline from entity to pads Tomi Valkeinen
2021-08-30 11:00 ` [PATCH v8 14/36] media: entity: Use pad as the starting point for a pipeline Tomi Valkeinen
2021-08-30 11:00 ` [PATCH v8 15/36] media: entity: Add has_route entity operation Tomi Valkeinen
2021-08-30 11:00 ` [PATCH v8 16/36] media: entity: Add media_entity_has_route() function Tomi Valkeinen
2021-08-30 11:00 ` [PATCH v8 17/36] media: entity: Use routing information during graph traversal Tomi Valkeinen
2021-08-30 11:00 ` [PATCH v8 18/36] media: entity: Skip link validation for pads to which there is no route Tomi Valkeinen
2021-08-30 11:00 ` [PATCH v8 19/36] media: entity: Add an iterator helper for connected pads Tomi Valkeinen
2021-08-30 11:01 ` [PATCH v8 20/36] media: entity: Add only connected pads to the pipeline Tomi Valkeinen
2021-08-30 11:01 ` [PATCH v8 21/36] media: entity: Add debug information in graph walk route check Tomi Valkeinen
2021-08-30 11:01 ` [PATCH v8 22/36] media: Add bus type to frame descriptors Tomi Valkeinen
2021-08-30 11:01 ` [PATCH v8 23/36] media: Add CSI-2 bus configuration " Tomi Valkeinen
2021-08-30 11:01 ` [PATCH v8 24/36] media: Add stream to frame descriptor Tomi Valkeinen
2021-08-30 11:01 ` [PATCH v8 25/36] media: subdev: increase V4L2_FRAME_DESC_ENTRY_MAX to 8 Tomi Valkeinen
2021-08-30 11:01 ` [PATCH v8 26/36] media: add V4L2_SUBDEV_FL_MULTIPLEXED Tomi Valkeinen
2021-08-30 11:01 ` [PATCH v8 27/36] media: Documentation: Add GS_ROUTING documentation Tomi Valkeinen
2021-08-30 11:01 ` [PATCH v8 28/36] media: subdev: Add [GS]_ROUTING subdev ioctls and operations Tomi Valkeinen
2021-09-15 16:10   ` Jacopo Mondi
2021-09-16  6:57     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2021-10-03 19:52   ` Dafna Hirschfeld
2021-10-04  5:15     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2021-10-05 10:19       ` Dafna Hirschfeld
2021-10-05 10:54         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2021-08-30 11:01 ` [PATCH v8 29/36] media: subdev: add v4l2_subdev_has_route() Tomi Valkeinen
2021-08-30 11:01 ` [PATCH v8 30/36] media: subdev: add v4l2_subdev_set_routing helper() Tomi Valkeinen
2021-08-30 11:01 ` [PATCH v8 31/36] media: subdev: add stream based configuration Tomi Valkeinen
2021-08-30 11:01 ` [PATCH v8 32/36] media: subdev: use streams in v4l2_subdev_link_validate() Tomi Valkeinen
2021-08-30 11:01 ` [PATCH v8 33/36] media: subdev: add "opposite" stream helper funcs Tomi Valkeinen
2021-08-30 11:01 ` [PATCH v8 34/36] media: subdev: add v4l2_subdev_get_fmt() helper function Tomi Valkeinen
2021-08-30 11:01 ` [PATCH v8 35/36] media: subdev: add v4l2_subdev_set_routing_with_fmt() helper Tomi Valkeinen
2021-08-30 11:01 ` [PATCH v8 36/36] media: subdev: add v4l2_routing_simple_verify() helper Tomi Valkeinen
2021-09-20 10:19 ` [PATCH v8 00/36] v4l: subdev internal routing and streams Tomi Valkeinen
2021-09-27  1:24   ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-09-28  7:59     ` Jacopo Mondi

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