From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4574FBDC for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 17:25:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-it1-f174.google.com (mail-it1-f174.google.com [209.85.166.174]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB3AAA3 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 17:25:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-it1-f174.google.com with SMTP id s16so27873123ita.2 for ; Mon, 03 Jun 2019 10:25:53 -0700 (PDT) To: Sasha Levin , Laura Abbott References: <0bc02b84-4d9a-59a7-e6c6-a3b602adca73@linuxfoundation.org> <1018c8ba-61a0-c024-cd98-3b82ebd710ec@redhat.com> <20190602180913.GR12898@sasha-vm> From: Shuah Khan Message-ID: <667d4900-0a9a-d6f8-7012-3c15c2df7da8@linuxfoundation.org> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2019 11:25:51 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190602180913.GR12898@sasha-vm> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Squashing bugs! List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On 6/2/19 12:09 PM, Sasha Levin wrote: > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 08:01:15AM -0400, Laura Abbott wrote: >> On 5/30/19 7:30 PM, Shuah Khan wrote: >>> I would like to propose a topic to discuss ideas to keep up with Syzbot >>> bugs on an ongoing basis. Good news is, as of this writing, we have 1276 >>> fixed, 86 in moderation, and 62 fix pending. However, there are 523 open >>> bugs. A good number of them have been open for longer than 300 days. >>> >>> The oldest one has been open for 537 days. I plan to take a closer at >>> the open bugs to identify areas that might need more help. >>> >>> I have been sending fixes to some of them as I find time like many other >>> developers. In addition, I included syzbot bug analysis as a required >>> contribution in the Linux Kernel Mentorship Program application process. >>> This is for learning debugging skills as well as getting help towards >>> fixing bugs. It has been successful in getting a few fixes in. My goal >>> is  to make these efforts a bit more structured to focus on areas that >>> need help. >>> >>> There are some challenges, the obvious ones being finding time to >>> analyze, reproduce, and fix. Reproducers are available in many cases, >>> and these bugs can be reproduced. Identifying the right fix and fixing >>> is the overwhelming part with the number of outstanding problems. >>> >>> My objective for this topic is to explore and identify areas that might >>> need help in analyzing and fixing bugs in general and especially the >>> ones that have been open for a while. It would help me channel and focus >>> the Mentorship Program efforts and my efforts to help the areas in need. >>> >>> thanks, >>> -- Shuah >> >> I'm interested in this topic for not just syzbot but other bug trackers >> as well. Fedora gets a steady flow of bugs filed and the three official >> maintainers do their best to review but sometimes things slip through, >> especially if we hit a time when several of us are out or traveling. >> The kernel.org bugzilla also gets a number of bug reports that sometimes >> get lost. I'd love to see if there's a process that could work for syzbot >> and other high volume kernel trackers. > > Maybe the solution here is to standardize bug reporting bots? A > bugs@kernel.org mailing list which our various bots could report to with > a standard format that'll allow users/maintainers to easily filter it to > get only bugs they care about? > Easy to filter and manage is important for usability. I mentioned in my response Kees that I am finding it hard to update syzbot bug status to mark them as duplicate and/or fixed. The email interface is nice for individual bugs, but not very easy when it comes to other actions. > I'd also love to get a concrete solution we could actually go ahead and > try for a year. It doesn't have to be pretty or perfect, but just > something we could experiment with and possibly build upon later? We > keep kicking this can down the road for way too long. > I am hoping we will come up something concrete. thanks, -- Shuah