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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@iki.fi>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Cc: io-uring <io-uring@vger.kernel.org>,
	Xiaoguang Wang <xiaoguang.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	joseph qi <joseph.qi@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Jiufei Xue <jiufei.xue@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC} io_uring: io_kiocb alloc cache
Date: Wed, 13 May 2020 14:44:16 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <672c5a33-fcdf-86f8-e529-6341dcbdadca@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d3ff604d-2955-f8f6-dcbd-25ae90569dc3@iki.fi>

On 5/13/20 2:31 PM, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> Hi Jens,
> 
> On 5/13/20 1:20 PM, Pekka Enberg wrote:
>>> So I assume if someone does "perf record", they will see significant
>>> reduction in page allocator activity with Jens' patch. One possible way
>>> around that is forcing the page allocation order to be much higher. IOW,
>>> something like the following completely untested patch:
> 
> On 5/13/20 11:09 PM, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> Now tested, I gave it a shot. This seems to bring performance to
>> basically what the io_uring patch does, so that's great! Again, just in
>> the microbenchmark test case, so freshly booted and just running the
>> case.
> 
> Great, thanks for testing!
> 
> On 5/13/20 11:09 PM, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> Will this patch introduce latencies or non-deterministic behavior for a
>> fragmented system?
> 
> You have to talk to someone who is more up-to-date with how the page 
> allocator operates today. But yeah, I assume people still want to avoid 
> higher-order allocations as much as possible, because they make 
> allocation harder when memory is fragmented.

That was my thinking... I don't want a random io_kiocb allocation to
take a long time because of high order allocations.

> That said, perhaps it's not going to the page allocator as much as I 
> thought, but the problem is that the per-CPU cache size is just to small 
> for these allocations, forcing do_slab_free() to take the slow path 
> often. Would be interesting to know if CONFIG_SLAB does better here 
> because the per-CPU cache size is much larger IIRC.

Just tried with SLAB, and it's roughly 4-5% down from the baseline
(non-modified) SLUB. So not faster, at least for this case.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-13 20:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-13 16:30 [PATCH RFC} io_uring: io_kiocb alloc cache Jens Axboe
2020-05-13 17:42 ` Jann Horn
2020-05-13 17:42   ` Jann Horn
2020-05-13 18:34   ` Jens Axboe
2020-05-13 19:20   ` Pekka Enberg
2020-05-13 20:09     ` Jens Axboe
2020-05-13 20:31       ` Pekka Enberg
2020-05-13 20:44         ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2020-05-14  8:25 ` Xiaoguang Wang
2020-05-14 14:22   ` Jens Axboe
2020-05-14 14:33     ` Jens Axboe
2020-05-14 14:53       ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-05-14 15:15         ` Jens Axboe
2020-05-14 15:37           ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-05-14 15:53             ` Jens Axboe
2020-05-14 16:18               ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-05-14 16:21                 ` Jens Axboe
2020-05-14 16:25                 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-05-14 17:01                   ` Jens Axboe
2020-05-14 17:41                     ` Jens Axboe
2020-05-16  9:20       ` Xiaoguang Wang
2020-05-16 16:15     ` Xiaoguang Wang

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