From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jaromir Capik Subject: Re: [RFE] Please, add optional RAID1 feature (= chunk checksums) to make it more robust Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 09:04:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <691e878b-1a0d-4042-bb92-c8af76ba063b@zmail15.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> References: <20120718211537.516b574f@notabene.brown> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <20120718211537.516b574f@notabene.brown> Sender: linux-raid-owner@vger.kernel.org To: NeilBrown Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org List-Id: linux-raid.ids Hello Neil. > > If a drive ever lets you read incorrect data rather than giving you > an error > indication, then the drive is broken by design. Don't use drives > that do > that. Unfortunately many drives do that. This happens transparently during the drive's idle surface checks, when there's no read request from the OS. I don't know how it is done in server harddrives, but I experienced data corruptions related to bad sector reallocations in case of several different desktop drives. I got no read errors at all even when the SMART attributes were showing reallocations. Somebody could ask, why people want to implement RAID on top of cheap desktop harddrives. It's surprisingly because of their price. Chunk checksums would give people a cheap and safe/robust solution. > > > Would it be possible > > to implement chunk checksums to avoid such data corruptions? > > No. I respect your decision. Thank you for your time. Jaromir. > > NeilBrown > > > > If a corrupted chunk is encountered, it would be taken from the > > second > > drive and immediately synced back. This would have a small > > performance > > and capacity impact (1 sector per chunk to minimize performance > > impact > > caused by unaligned granularity = 0.78% of the capacity with 64k > > chunks). > > > > Please, let me know if you find my request reasonable or not. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Regards, > > Jaromir. > > > > -- > > Jaromir Capik > > Red Hat Czech, s.r.o. > > Software Engineer / BaseOS > > > > Email: jcapik@redhat.com > > Web: www.cz.redhat.com > > Red Hat Czech s.r.o., Purkynova 99/71, 612 45, Brno, Czech Republic > > IC: 27690016 > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe > > linux-raid" in > > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > >