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([2601:202:4180:c33:9100:7129:ced8:dfd3]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s2-v6sm33406593pgo.90.2018.11.01.08.32.31 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 01 Nov 2018 08:32:32 -0700 (PDT) To: Trevor Woerner , yocto@yoctoproject.org, openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org, yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org References: <20181101140417.GA12376@linux-uys3> From: akuster808 Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=akuster808@gmail.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsFNBFnlUP4BEADpKf+FQdLykenQXKk8i6xJNxDow+ypFeVAy8iFJp7Dsev+BtwUFo8VG7hx Jmd71vHMw+coBetWC3lk+IKjX815Ox0puYXQVRRtI+yMCgd6ib3oGxoQ8tCMwhf9c9/aKjaz mP97lWgGHbiEVsDpjzmMZGlJ6pDVZzxykkJExKaosE46AcA8KvfhRQg5zRyYBtinzs8Zu8AP aquZVHNXxPwjKPaSEEYqQjFeiNgFTavV+AhM2dmPmGUWCX9RZisrqA4slGwEB0srMdFf12Zg mD35Y9jZ80qpu5LPtJCFcsaAlebqR+dg36pIpiRR+olhN1wmC6LYP1vw6uMEYBjkTa2Rnb6+ C4FDzCJD4UCrUvLMNeTW810DY0bjMMj3SfmSGSfQUssaaaTXCVlLGuGxyCr/kza1rHaXMKum Ek4EFj1fyn7AfkSLEHfJfY4sO1tpgigvs4eD/4ZSQEXSu/TjVvyKx4EvUbhlGMRyH2CPwD/H 7DFF8tcVtJvCwUUW+zKtjxjSSLrhniNMXAOQJZ6CdaqCe4OyJQT5aRdr+FWbBRjpaRCCf5nf dTc88NMU9PrBT3vu0QJ5WNPO6MJpnb+d8iMNLZAz8tv8JMm2l+sMcNKSJ6lhX8peoBsfMVqc FgiykEO0fUt7DCbUYR5tLjM/3E5tHvTjMooVJyOxoufVLYtTtQARAQABzSFha3VzdGVyODA4 IDxha3VzdGVyODA4QGdtYWlsLmNvbT7CwX0EEwEIACcFAlnlUP4CGyMFCQlmAYAFCwkIBwIG FQgJCgsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQ7ou0mfRW5/kuhRAAlR2FTq5572jrX5nnPR7AqI2bvSVb vqGLlvv739WhghvagbC+tu05QguopAhWW1/DcHK2+QtfIoC9UZrSW4RaO0CCo5sPjqK7l1KT ngWX/rGjF6xTF2QN0U/btcpMyVN2CNtVLwsDF9e+GHKoUcnFkP+JP8vHGokN9k6E/c97hLaL IJPeKl8LZXc2Efk+MaW1NXkfDJdcp/p+voajbihSQO6OZ/o+x9d2I3ZybKfTZ71+ek5Hxzjz g6KkMOI7KJjlmBlrQFAtVbS+CFAKrwkYznE6ggkcmGv3N7DeUBTUR78hf+EZEAM+ajeLMtrG rXE00pIb+gLGYPZxba5pCdQ+qWUW38qi9UnIRPm6fq7Ypx1r6XwJvbgCOkhbxo3D4YUdyC0b FE9lgrg8htbc9in4j2+hVI6ALswNjLprzXdzdKrd+T3Egx36o3Z/qrYsW2o5/A5sVvvASVKi wRPuEKhEhfmiHUPLvuKqhMoymHaz3fg5D2Q8G0gSDkLgeEpAjiWqf4+AGLx+MSDai7DSOsmI t61kWxs7cFTB32UrB/TDoVNn3Fm88ZFQpA/bngikE9jgEm045mSY86fNlbFj2mcCd0Ha1i1n aYc97RpgfjNMWyHDVHOGrNg/hJjkGa5RsAXkfyBwltHRw0Hj4urUQ3rr8um8PLe43SezPwXA oRoyDxDOwU0EWeVQ/gEQALNHwj5VSPdnvXy1RXUuH+rclMx4x8zaqDyY0YqHfA7b/d8Y0VAt Y6YpzDeFTwD8A0Wfb7kZ2mlDIE6ODCB71uT/E3C6b+FiiN+lgzslznjUW+9l8ddDhRrC8HMG 37vrXF5h++PTXUKEKUlkDib1w093tu3mlJXUvIAzl8CEHkptF6Br0L9XxFwuWoNUfjT9IorQ 0SVIhvq5PhVAITXUD5fD7/N8B4TYegmHFRo1UaaKSnSHwlJJkzKpeWOH8QTYrP0RHxX86Obv IZuwbAo3F3oojcvLJt9NxWnbEmEALkleklLZnukgu7q5Wp1VDwhUbMFTLb6qmnBa/Xi30uOk 0l1TMHDbeQswvQDOZBAMukSRqyBetKxQ3iTfZ/3z1ubQRcVDbVlMDScSHQq0LK3F9yMOMM/6 0QPqJjl13xn/+Bn7WJiAIXXwzAV7uo6i0khFfjDtCDQ40aeffqOLxp1yMLkc3EKJGcQ5F6O2 ycEf4QXCYUbMXjxB0EJB8y7z+xOi5Mmd/pPlVmZ2gQK84NAL90p7n7jRlyf3gOUY+JOl4c5e UFiIhOzmuqNrvPOiZ02GXh6SGUU5y7IgSoIKvXSFgHAn2OG/tcspBmkyv6IuNVpmbmEgYn4I Rnt40UXVQkxTh0dENFhk2cjunMYozV/OqYCgmZLFSeJd8kAo4yn+yOtNABEBAAHCwWUEGAEI AA8FAlnlUP4CGwwFCQlmAYAACgkQ7ou0mfRW5/nNcg//R63cbOS6zLtvdnPub3Ssp1Ft8Wmv mni+kccuNApuDV7d63QckYxjAfUv2zYMLpbh87gVbLyCq9ASn552EbfRhTvHdk44CgbHBVcI ZBEdZWgRR5ViJakQSYHpP2e5AGNFnx9gSIuRTaa5rvZM+4xeoZ2vJiq93TtaYPr7UFNfK+c4 vv4C66lkt9l95/I10eSc3RqbOKZW47emlg4X3ygEoB9k2lPrpspyf6sUuSEi0WrlSxoLAr6p JG8rTUErYNeXe6JCdL31odDx1Dh5sdKIj2RicUYZNilxu9f1M7jZwf2ra1FGAlKj2ybqmgpZ EFteaiCinEYsvDyZyOiWHjAFI+RZIPQQL3AnVp4l7wYD3r9hnqYPww0slyMDcb9262RoFkHq dDwxPYarrNjWUpOzxB6bFxOgNRdCTgvQl8Ftk8a/yXB6vHeUSm1vPFCBxQPZytyfOLhEWm0J /mkVL0Z6iRK3p1LKnpLYCS4/esL2u7RrhPyCs2SsL58YcQF/g+PpeT9geZ+oyZ/4IQ+TWJoU PNHndk8VBTpzrmOaJxrebNL/W6C8JCmbLM11TAUMmHYi9JDytN8Au78hWpDbIdKwg1LeSxpw ZZD/OqOc0DBvHOpQhzkSrtR1lVlDV/+9E8J1T4uDhrGmZwYV+4xQetypHax8aAHisYbjXdVa 8CS2NxU= Message-ID: <6b8e3db1-d7f1-8abb-dc79-c3fa1c03b97d@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 08:32:31 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20181101140417.GA12376@linux-uys3> Subject: Re: [OE-core] OEDAM @ SCaLE 2019 X-BeenThere: yocto@yoctoproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of all things Yocto Project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2018 15:32:35 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Trevor, On 11/1/18 7:04 AM, Trevor Woerner wrote: > Hello Fellow YP/OE Enthusiasts! > > There were discussions at our recent OEDEM regarding: > - our next developers meeting > - SCaLE 2019 > - expanding/adding to the YP/OE presence at conferences (i.e. our own > miniconf?) > > Please see time indices: 12:13 and 16:45 > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YDAHjIOXCIgvSZVOKCYLxa8h26dkruX8zspoge7zCpk Could you please give us a day's notice the next time so we can properly set the perms for our minutes. - armin > > Unfortunately, although lots of opinions were expressed, nothing concrete was > decided. Many people pointed out that their travel budgets are already > strained or maxed out, so adding another conference would be difficult if not > impossible. It's unclear how many "core" YP/OE people might show up at next > year's SCaLE. Also, given that this year's ELC scheduling hiccup is a one-off, > maybe it doesn't make as much sense to put in all the work required to run an > OEDAM at SCaLE if it's only ever going to happen once. Therefore I think I can > safely say the organizing committee for YP/OE Things at SCaLE 2019 is leaning > towards not running an OEDAM. > > It's not too late to change our plans. If a large number of core people reply > to this email saying they want and OEDAM in March and will be available in > Pasadena, then we could accommodate it. It's just that we didn't leave > Edinburgh with the feeling that an OEDAM at SCaLE was feasible. Also, at this > point SCaLE isn't on the radars of many of the core YP/OE people, and > currently the conference tends to attract users rather than developers (or so > is my impression). > > Thoughts? > > Best regards, > Trevor From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pf1-f174.google.com (mail-pf1-f174.google.com [209.85.210.174]) by mail.openembedded.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C887779D6C for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2018 15:32:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pf1-f174.google.com with SMTP id c25-v6so9506490pfe.6 for ; Thu, 01 Nov 2018 08:32:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:openpgp:autocrypt:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=SnqfG8gf+g/OQh/GpnxAx6tZaWrG4sAs/sdFkXaJT7w=; b=rldXe3prKo1mZR53vhmxKhl92vlkDN3Ylts13wHQodgZlDmbgE1lBy+mOyWLE8I9Hd CzJrjTeaNhgTxsa0ux/2/efFmQLm2AbFoNb803vaflROEmmiFcfgbE9TNS2Im1+BYyDw blPgRoQv3WpuKvXnnH6huzt+LFu0KTgiF0L+0UfclL7TuBI53jAQZzyU684jrVpV7A3F M+9InTRH2qrSs0CX5mgJMRNfRpqsbvZczkugr57QqpWXjT4xIviKLbjIwm7QxU0r/YjW e1GoXlRXc/nAvQI/5BdIdYkYa8WOozypHupyB5BbtTxQob7TpA1qeYFpUatV5BqStA1X /5zA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:openpgp:autocrypt :message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to :content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=SnqfG8gf+g/OQh/GpnxAx6tZaWrG4sAs/sdFkXaJT7w=; b=G+lOnWpmevGbQwzHWRbTeo5FmTLhPY6V9RMLIFfQ2nQfdmUY8HqwwVLowXrinC0QfV BHxMV+5KqAm+boeszTxhgsp5Aw1ju+6Ehyp5XUWAk6JUK9oE54umuJC2hql1ZHfkileq NzAhdvZ28WMPZXF1ak1FuuDiJZtUxPNcATLwxCabYF1XMnAj1/C/EsNCLYZ6CgdaYFpB iuO0UuVSMqlVktup6jgulIIqWQLpH3TsGAEx9kzLD80+3FUygsRNMXf0gsTY1J5C00Rx ZSFwIX8+fQFGvK8Mgd3/9/IktI9PmEtzVscwzXQWUlf1AnYFJ2tMhKPTv9Z5I7YRQVFH lDxg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gJH06Oqr1NTib5rIsljUwWX6y/IAUhXAIexzz4h7PyTouaf/t3q mlkV2EA5ETAlkpxD8ZDiPcg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5ckHTaE2QtvXJmT9Tcc2zifi0Xq+YVq5MHh/DmVLMUP1hMJ3zeNLn5HBiR35+/hqPAnX44fRQ== X-Received: by 2002:a63:515b:: with SMTP id r27-v6mr7604441pgl.419.1541086353496; Thu, 01 Nov 2018 08:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2601:202:4180:c33:9100:7129:ced8:dfd3? 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Many people pointed out that their travel budgets are already > strained or maxed out, so adding another conference would be difficult if not > impossible. It's unclear how many "core" YP/OE people might show up at next > year's SCaLE. Also, given that this year's ELC scheduling hiccup is a one-off, > maybe it doesn't make as much sense to put in all the work required to run an > OEDAM at SCaLE if it's only ever going to happen once. Therefore I think I can > safely say the organizing committee for YP/OE Things at SCaLE 2019 is leaning > towards not running an OEDAM. > > It's not too late to change our plans. If a large number of core people reply > to this email saying they want and OEDAM in March and will be available in > Pasadena, then we could accommodate it. It's just that we didn't leave > Edinburgh with the feeling that an OEDAM at SCaLE was feasible. Also, at this > point SCaLE isn't on the radars of many of the core YP/OE people, and > currently the conference tends to attract users rather than developers (or so > is my impression). > > Thoughts? > > Best regards, > Trevor