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From: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
To: SeongJae Park <sj38.park@gmail.com>
Cc: "Michał Mirosław" <mirq-linux@rere.qmqm.pl>,
	"SeongJae Park" <sjpark@amazon.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, apw@canonical.com,
	colin.king@canonical.com, jslaby@suse.cz, pavel@ucw.cz,
	"SeongJae Park" <sjpark@amazon.de>
Subject: Re: Re: checkpatch: support deprecated terms checking
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 21:27:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6d88f6b08442b064062449c6379aa7d3b9b68ff0.camel@perches.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200725233557.8154-1-sj38.park@gmail.com>

On Sun, 2020-07-26 at 01:35 +0200, SeongJae Park wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 10:29:23 -0700 Joe Perches <joe@perches.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 2020-07-25 at 15:02 +0200, Michał Mirosław wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I see that this patch went into next and is already inciting people to
> > > do wrong things [1]. Can you please fix it to require '--subjective'
> > > switch or otherwise mark it clearly as suggestion-only?
> > > 
> > > The coding-style as in Linus' master says about *NEW* uses of the words
> > > listed (those introductions I expect to be actually rare) and not about
> > > existing use in the code or industry. Making a noise about all uses
> > > found surely will generate a lot more irrelevant patches.
> > > 
> > > [1] https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-tegra/msg51849.html
> > 
> > And if not reverted, perhaps do not check existing files
> > at all but only check patches and change the message to
> > show only suggestions not from a specification.
> 
> Agreed for this case.  However, excluding existing file check doesn't fully
> avoid this problem.  Also, more terms having different deprecation rules might
> be added in future.  How about allowing file check but show reference in the
> suggestion message as below?

The general problem is that drivers/staging, net/ and drivers/net
all have --strict on by default.

Emitting these deprecated terms messages with -f --file uses for
files in those directories isn't a great idea.

> diff --git a/scripts/deprecated_terms.txt b/scripts/deprecated_terms.txt
[]
> @@ -3,8 +3,10 @@
>  # The format of each line is:
>  # deprecated||suggested
>  #
> +# If special rules are applied on the terms, please comment those.

Disagree.  Comments about these existing uses aren't helpful.

> +#
> +# Refer to "4) Naming" section of Documentation/process/coding-style.rst for
> +# below three terms.
>  blacklist||(denylist|blocklist)
> -# For other alternatives of 'slave', Please refer to
> -# Documentation/process/coding-style.rst
>  slave||(secondary|target|...)
>  whitelist||(allowlist|passlist)



  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-26  4:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-11  6:25 [PATCH v4 0/2] Recommend denylist/allowlist instead of blacklist/whitelist SeongJae Park
2020-06-11  6:25 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] checkpatch: support deprecated terms checking SeongJae Park
2020-07-25 13:02   ` Michał Mirosław
2020-07-25 16:36     ` Joe Perches
2020-07-25 17:29     ` Joe Perches
2020-07-25 23:35       ` SeongJae Park
2020-07-26  4:27         ` Joe Perches [this message]
2020-07-26  7:18           ` SeongJae Park
2020-07-26  7:29             ` Joe Perches
2020-07-26  7:45               ` SeongJae Park
2020-07-26 14:50                 ` Joe Perches
2020-07-26 15:36                   ` SeongJae Park
2020-07-26 16:42                     ` Joe Perches
2020-07-26 18:07                       ` SeongJae Park
2020-07-26 20:33                         ` Michał Mirosław
2020-07-27  6:54                           ` SeongJae Park
2020-07-27 20:44                             ` Andrew Morton
2020-07-27 20:49                               ` Joe Perches
2020-07-28  6:22                                 ` SeongJae Park
2020-06-11  6:25 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] scripts/deprecated_terms: Recommend denylist/allowlist instead of blacklist/whitelist SeongJae Park
2020-06-11  6:35 ` [PATCH v4 0/2] " Joe Perches
2020-06-11  7:38   ` SeongJae Park
2020-06-11  8:16     ` Jiri Slaby
2020-06-11  8:30       ` SeongJae Park
2020-06-11  8:32         ` Jiri Slaby
2020-06-11 10:43           ` Joe Perches
2020-06-12  6:40             ` SeongJae Park
2020-06-12  7:05               ` Joe Perches
2020-06-12 14:40       ` Michael Ellerman
2020-06-14 21:29         ` Pavel Machek
2020-06-15  4:21           ` Jiri Slaby
2020-06-15  6:12             ` Pavel Machek
2020-06-15  6:46               ` SeongJae Park
2020-06-15  7:00                 ` Joe Perches
2020-06-15  7:39                   ` Pavel Machek

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