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From: slow_speed@att.net
To: Reindl Harald <h.reindl@thelounge.net>,
	"Neal P. Murphy" <neal.p.murphy@alum.wpi.edu>
Cc: netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Reload IPtables
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 12:50:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6e79f7e4-2954-b1e6-2efe-201cdf867d32@att.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9dab1af3-3041-0fc0-e5d0-bd377ede37a3@thelounge.net>



On 6/29/21 11:18 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 29.06.21 um 16:52 schrieb slow_speed@att.net:
>>
>>
>> On 6/28/21 10:02 PM, Neal P. Murphy wrote:
>>> On Mon, 28 Jun 2021 10:43:10 +0100
>>> Kerin Millar <kfm@plushkava.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Now you benefit from atomicity (the rules will either be committed 
>>>> at once, in full, or not at all) and proper error handling (the exit 
>>>> status value of iptables-restore is meaningful and acted upon). 
>>>> Further, should you prefer to indent the body of the heredoc, you 
>>>> may write <<-EOF, though only leading tab characters will be 
>>>> stripped out.
>>>>
>>>
>>> [minor digression]
>>>
>>> Is iptables-restore truly atomic in *all* cases? Some years ago, I 
>>> found through experimentation that some rules were 'lost' when 
>>> restoring more than 25 000 rules. If I placed a COMMIT every 20 000 
>>> rules or so, then all rules would be properly loaded. I think COMMITs 
>>> break atomicity. I tested with 100k to 1M rules. I was comparing the 
>>> efficiency of iptables-restore with another tool that read from 
>>> STDIN; the other tool was about 5% more efficient.
>>>
>>
>> Please explain why you might have so many rules.  My server is pushing 
>> it at a dozen
> 
> likely because people don't use "ipset" and "chains" instead repeat the 
> same stuff again and again so that every single package has to travel 
> over hundrets and thousands of rules :-)

Exactly my thoughts.  Of course I understand that there may be long 
lists in some odd situations, but I wonder what kind of server is being 
referenced.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-29 16:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <08f069e3-914f-204a-dfd6-a56271ec1e55.ref@att.net>
2021-06-25 19:24 ` Reload IPtables slow_speed
2021-06-25 20:51   ` David Hajes
2021-06-25 21:30     ` slow_speed
2021-06-25 22:20       ` Stephen Satchell
     [not found]       ` <cd80bdd2-7816-f27f-d3fe-5042d213700e@satchell.net>
2021-06-25 22:37         ` slow_speed
2021-06-25 23:43       ` Reindl Harald
2021-06-25 23:47         ` slow_speed
2021-06-25 23:52           ` Reindl Harald
2021-06-26  7:19           ` David Hajes
2021-06-26 10:13             ` Reindl Harald
2021-06-26 10:27               ` David Hajes
2021-06-26 10:43                 ` Reindl Harald
2021-06-26 10:54                   ` David Hajes
2021-06-28  7:32                   ` Alessandro Vesely, Alessandro Vesely
2021-06-28  7:46                     ` Reindl Harald
2021-06-28  9:23                       ` Alessandro Vesely, Alessandro Vesely
2021-06-28  9:43                         ` Kerin Millar
2021-06-29  2:02                           ` Neal P. Murphy
2021-06-29  2:02                             ` Neal P. Murphy
     [not found]                             ` <20210629083652.GA10896@salvia>
2021-06-29  8:37                               ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2021-07-01  1:49                                 ` Neal P. Murphy
2021-07-01  1:49                                   ` Neal P. Murphy
2021-06-29  9:10                             ` Kerin Millar
2021-06-29 14:52                             ` slow_speed
2021-06-29 15:18                               ` Reindl Harald
2021-06-29 16:50                                 ` slow_speed [this message]
2021-07-01  2:31                               ` Neal P. Murphy
2021-06-28 10:17                         ` Reindl Harald
2021-06-28 11:47                           ` Alessandro Vesely, Alessandro Vesely
2021-06-28 12:03                             ` Reindl Harald
2021-06-28 13:46                               ` Kerin Millar
2021-06-28 16:35                                 ` Reindl Harald
2021-06-28 17:10                                   ` Kerin Millar
2021-06-28 17:16                                     ` Reindl Harald
2021-06-28 17:35                               ` Alessandro Vesely, Alessandro Vesely
2021-06-28 18:15                                 ` Reindl Harald
2021-06-28 13:36                             ` Stephen Satchell
2021-06-27 14:56             ` slow_speed
2021-06-27 15:46               ` G.W. Haywood
2021-06-27 18:29               ` Stephen Satchell
2021-06-27 18:11           ` Kerin Millar
2021-06-27 18:32             ` slow_speed
2021-06-27 18:57               ` Reindl Harald
2021-06-27 20:57                 ` slow_speed
2021-06-27 21:33                   ` Reindl Harald
2021-06-27 19:07               ` Kerin Millar
2021-06-27 19:10                 ` Kerin Millar
2021-06-27 19:56                 ` Stephen Satchell
2021-06-27 20:12                   ` Kerin Millar
2021-06-27 20:20                     ` Reindl Harald
2021-06-27 19:43               ` Stephen Satchell

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