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Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20181123115519.2dnzscmmgv63fdub@d104.suse.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.15 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.49]); Mon, 26 Nov 2018 13:05:43 +0000 (UTC) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 23.11.18 12:55, Oscar Salvador wrote: > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 10:21:24AM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote: >> 1. How are we going to present such memory to the system statistics? >> >> In my opinion, this vmemmap memory should >> a) still account to total memory >> b) show up as allocated >> >> So just like before. > > No, it does not show up under total memory and neither as allocated memory. > This memory is not for use for anything but for creating the pagetables > for the memmap array for the section/s. > > It is not memory that the system can use. > > I also guess that if there is a strong opinion on this, we could create > a counter, something like NR_VMEMMAP_PAGES, and show it under /proc/meminfo. > >> 2. Is this optional, in other words, can a device driver decide to not >> to it like that? > > Right now, is a per arch setup. > For example, x86_64/powerpc/arm64 will do it inconditionally. > Just FYI another special case is s390x right now when it comes to adding standby memory: (linux/drivers/s390/char/sclp_cmd.c) There are two issues: a) Storage keys On s390x, storage keys have to be initialized before memory might be used (think of it as 7bit page status/protection for each 4k page managed and stored by the HW separately) Storage keys are initialized in sclp_assign_storage(), when the memory is going online (MEM_GOING_ONLINE). b) Hypervisor making memory accessible Only when onlining memory, the memory is actually made accessible in the hypervisor (sclp_assign_storage()). Touching it before that is bad and will fail. You can think of standby memory on s390x like memory that is only onlined on request by an administrator. Once onlined, the hypervisor will allocate memory for it. However, once we have other ways of adding memory to a s390x guest (e.g. virtio-mem) at least b) is not an issue anymore. a) would require manual tweaking (e.g. initialize storage keys of memory for vmmaps early). So in summary as of now your approach will not work on s390x, but with e.g. virtio-mem it could. We would need some interface to specify how to add memory. (To somehow allow a driver to specify it - e.g. SCLP vs. virtio-mem) Cheers! -- Thanks, David / dhildenb