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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, "Tang, Feng" <feng.tang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6 v2] Calculate pcp->high based on zone sizes and active CPUs
Date: Thu, 27 May 2021 12:36:21 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7177f59b-dc05-daff-7dc6-5815b539a790@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210525080119.5455-1-mgorman@techsingularity.net>

Hi Mel,

Feng Tang tossed these on a "Cascade Lake" system with 96 threads and
~512G of persistent memory and 128G of DRAM.  The PMEM is in "volatile
use" mode and being managed via the buddy just like the normal RAM.

The PMEM zones are big ones:

        present  65011712 = 248 G
        high       134595 = 525 M

The PMEM nodes, of course, don't have any CPUs in them.

With your series, the pcp->high value per-cpu is 69584 pages or about
270MB per CPU.  Scaled up by the 96 CPU threads, that's ~26GB of
worst-case memory in the pcps per zone, or roughly 10% of the size of
the zone.

I did see quite a few pcp->counts above 60,000, so it's definitely
possible in practice to see the pcps filled up.  This was not observed
to cause any actual problems in practice.  But, it's still a bit worrisome.

Maybe instead of pretending that cpu-less nodes have one cpu:

	nr_local_cpus = max(1U,
cpumask_weight(cpumask_of_node(zone_to_nid(zone))));

we should just consider them to have *all* the CPUs in the system.  Perhaps:

	nr_local_cpus = cpumask_weight(cpumask_of_node(zone_to_nid(zone)));
	if (!nr_local_cpus)
		nr_local_cpus = num_online_cpus();

Even if a system has a silly number of CPUs, the 'high' sizes will still
hit a floor at 4*batch:

	high = max(high, batch << 2);

Which doesn't seem too bad, especially considering that CPU-less nodes
naturally have less contention.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-05-27 19:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-25  8:01 [PATCH 0/6 v2] Calculate pcp->high based on zone sizes and active CPUs Mel Gorman
2021-05-25  8:01 ` [PATCH 1/6] mm/page_alloc: Delete vm.percpu_pagelist_fraction Mel Gorman
2021-05-26 17:41   ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-05-25  8:01 ` [PATCH 2/6] mm/page_alloc: Disassociate the pcp->high from pcp->batch Mel Gorman
2021-05-26 18:14   ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-05-27 10:52     ` Mel Gorman
2021-05-28 10:27       ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-05-25  8:01 ` [PATCH 3/6] mm/page_alloc: Adjust pcp->high after CPU hotplug events Mel Gorman
2021-05-28 11:08   ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-05-25  8:01 ` [PATCH 4/6] mm/page_alloc: Scale the number of pages that are batch freed Mel Gorman
2021-05-28 11:19   ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-05-25  8:01 ` [PATCH 5/6] mm/page_alloc: Limit the number of pages on PCP lists when reclaim is active Mel Gorman
2021-05-28 11:43   ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-05-25  8:01 ` [PATCH 6/6] mm/page_alloc: Introduce vm.percpu_pagelist_high_fraction Mel Gorman
2021-05-28 11:59   ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-05-28 12:53     ` Mel Gorman
2021-05-28 14:38       ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-05-27 19:36 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2021-05-28  8:55   ` [PATCH 0/6 v2] Calculate pcp->high based on zone sizes and active CPUs Mel Gorman
2021-05-28  9:03     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-28  9:08       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-28  9:49         ` Mel Gorman
2021-05-28  9:52           ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-28 10:09             ` Mel Gorman
2021-05-28 10:21               ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-28 12:12     ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-05-28 12:37       ` Mel Gorman
2021-05-28 14:39     ` Dave Hansen
2021-05-28 15:18       ` Mel Gorman
2021-05-28 16:17         ` Dave Hansen
2021-05-31 12:00           ` Feng Tang

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