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From: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, guro@fb.com, rientjes@google.com,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, vdavydov.dev@gmail.com, tj@kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm,oom: Don't call schedule_timeout_killable() with oom_lock held.
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 00:23:57 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7276d450-5e66-be56-3a17-0fc77596a3b6@i-love.sakura.ne.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180531104450.GN15278@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 2018/05/31 19:44, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Thu 31-05-18 19:10:48, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
>> On 2018/05/30 8:07, Andrew Morton wrote:
>>> On Tue, 29 May 2018 09:17:41 +0200 Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I suggest applying
>>>>> this patch first, and then fix "mm, oom: cgroup-aware OOM killer" patch.
>>>>
>>>> Well, I hope the whole pile gets merged in the upcoming merge window
>>>> rather than stall even more.
>>>
>>> I'm more inclined to drop it all.  David has identified significant
>>> shortcomings and I'm not seeing a way of addressing those shortcomings
>>> in a backward-compatible fashion.  Therefore there is no way forward
>>> at present.
>>>
>>
>> Can we apply my patch as-is first?
> 
> No. As already explained before. Sprinkling new sleeps without a strong
> reason is not acceptable. The issue you are seeing is pretty artificial
> and as such doesn're really warrant an immediate fix. We should rather
> go with a well thought trhough fix. In other words we should simply drop
> the sleep inside the oom_lock for starter unless it causes some really
> unexpected behavior change.
> 

The OOM killer did not require schedule_timeout_killable(1) to return
as long as the OOM victim can call __mmput(). But now the OOM killer
requires schedule_timeout_killable(1) to return in order to allow the
OOM victim to call __oom_reap_task_mm(). Thus, this is a regression.

Artificial cannot become the reason to postpone my patch. If we don't care
artificialness/maliciousness, we won't need to care Spectre/Meltdown bugs.

I'm not sprinkling new sleeps. I'm just merging existing sleeps (i.e.
mutex_trylock() case and !mutex_trylock() case) and updating the outdated
comments.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-31 15:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-12 14:18 [PATCH] mm,oom: Don't call schedule_timeout_killable() with oom_lock held Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-15  9:16 ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-18 10:14   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-18 12:20     ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-20 15:56       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-22  6:18         ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-23 10:24           ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-23 11:57             ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-23 13:45               ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-23 14:56                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-24 10:51                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-24 11:50                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-25  1:17                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-25  8:31                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-25 10:57                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-25 11:42                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-25 11:46                               ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-28 12:43                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-28 20:57                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-29  7:17                                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-29 23:07                                       ` Andrew Morton
2018-05-31 10:10                                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-31 10:44                                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-31 15:23                                             ` Tetsuo Handa [this message]
2018-05-31 18:47                                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-01  1:21                                                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-06-01  8:04                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-01 15:28                                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-01 21:11                                           ` Andrew Morton
2018-06-04  7:04                                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-04 10:41                                               ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-06-04 11:22                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-04 11:30                                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-06-06  9:02                                                 ` David Rientjes
2018-06-06 13:37                                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-06-06 18:44                                                     ` David Rientjes
2018-05-29  7:17             ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-29  8:16               ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-29 14:33                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-29 17:18                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-29 17:28                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-31 16:31                 ` [PATCH] mm, memcg, oom: fix pre-mature allocation failures kbuild test robot
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-03-22 10:51 [PATCH] mm,oom: Don't call schedule_timeout_killable() with oom_lock held Tetsuo Handa
2018-03-22 11:45 ` Michal Hocko
2018-03-22 13:16   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-01-22 13:46 Tetsuo Handa
2018-01-23  8:38 ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-23 12:07   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-01-23 12:42     ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-24 13:28       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-02-13 11:58         ` Tetsuo Handa

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