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From: Alexey Budankov <alexey.budankov@linux.intel.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 00/15] Introduce threaded trace streaming for basic perf record operation
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 13:35:27 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <73ff3e6f-4f5e-9a15-8710-b9b9026e27d4@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201014172700.GA3595702@gmail.com>


On 14.10.2020 20:27, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Alexey Budankov <alexey.budankov@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> 
>>
>> Patch set provides threaded trace streaming for base perf record
>> operation. Provided streaming mode (--threads) mitigates profiling
>> data losses and resolves scalability issues of serial and asynchronous
>> (--aio) trace streaming modes on multicore server systems. The patch
>> set is based on the prototype [1], [2] and the most closely relates
>> to mode 3) "mode that creates thread for every monitored memory map".
>>
>> The threaded mode executes one-to-one mapping of trace streaming threads
>> to mapped data buffers and streaming into per-CPU trace files located
>> at data directory. The data buffers and threads are affined to NUMA
>> nodes and monitored CPUs according to system topology. --cpu option
>> can be used to specify exact CPUs to be monitored.
> 
> Yay! This should really be the default trace capture model everywhere 
> possible.
> 
> Can we do this for perf top too? It's really struggling with lots of cores.
> 
> If on a 64-core system I run just a moderately higher frequency 'perf top' 
> of 1 kHz:
> 
>   perf top -e cycles -F 1000
> 
> perf stays stuck forever in 'Collecting samples...', and I also get a lot 
> of:
> 
>   [548112.871089] Uhhuh. NMI received for unknown reason 31 on CPU 25.
>   [548112.871089] Do you have a strange power saving mode enabled?

Yes, we can. I would only prefer to do it in a separate patch set since
for me this patch set is already complex enough as a single change.
Is it ok?

I would also appreciate if you could clarify, advise or guide on the impact
of this perf top advancement or may be even provide some feedback on this feature adoption to help better justify the effort for my management. 

Gratefully,
Alexei

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 	Ingo
> 

      reply	other threads:[~2020-10-15 10:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-12  8:50 [PATCH v1 00/15] Introduce threaded trace streaming for basic perf record operation Alexey Budankov
2020-10-12  8:53 ` [PATCH v1 01/15] perf session: introduce trace file path to be shown in raw trace dump Alexey Budankov
2020-10-12  8:54 ` [PATCH v1 02/15] perf report: output trace file name " Alexey Budankov
2020-10-12 16:01   ` Andi Kleen
2020-10-12 17:06     ` Alexey Budankov
2020-10-20 16:31       ` Alexey Budankov
2020-10-20 17:10         ` Alexey Budankov
2020-10-20 20:29           ` Andi Kleen
2020-10-13 19:54   ` Jiri Olsa
2020-10-13 21:23     ` Alexey Budankov
2020-10-12  8:55 ` [PATCH v1 03/15] perf data: open data directory in read access mode Alexey Budankov
2020-10-12 16:03   ` Andi Kleen
2020-10-12 16:52     ` Alexey Budankov
2020-10-13 16:22       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-10-14 10:39         ` Alexey Budankov
2020-10-12  8:56 ` [PATCH v1 04/15] perf session: move reader object definition to header file Alexey Budankov
2020-10-12  8:57 ` [PATCH v1 05/15] perf session: introduce decompressor into trace reader object Alexey Budankov
2020-10-12 16:05   ` Andi Kleen
2020-10-12 16:50     ` Alexey Budankov
2020-10-12  8:58 ` [PATCH v1 06/15] perf session: load data directory into tool process memory Alexey Budankov
2020-10-12 16:09   ` Andi Kleen
2020-10-12 16:49     ` Alexey Budankov
2020-10-13 11:30       ` Alexey Budankov
2020-10-21  6:54         ` Namhyung Kim
2020-10-21 10:25           ` Alexey Budankov
2020-10-21 10:57             ` Namhyung Kim
2020-10-21 13:01               ` Alexey Budankov
2020-10-12  8:59 ` [PATCH v1 07/15] perf record: introduce trace file, compressor and stats in mmap object Alexey Budankov
2020-10-12  9:01 ` [PATCH v1 08/15] perf record: write trace data into mmap trace files Alexey Budankov
2020-10-14 10:52   ` Namhyung Kim
2020-10-14 12:09     ` Alexey Budankov
2020-10-21  7:34       ` Namhyung Kim
2020-10-21 10:24         ` Alexey Budankov
2020-10-21 10:51           ` Namhyung Kim
2020-10-12  9:02 ` [PATCH v1 09/15] perf record: introduce thread specific objects for trace streaming Alexey Budankov
2020-10-12  9:03 ` [PATCH v1 10/15] perf record: manage thread specific data array Alexey Budankov
2020-10-12  9:05 ` [PATCH v1 11/15] perf evlist: introduce evlist__ctlfd_update() to update ctl fd status Alexey Budankov
2020-10-12  9:05 ` [PATCH v1 12/15] perf record: introduce thread local variable for trace streaming Alexey Budankov
2020-10-12  9:10 ` [PATCH v1 13/15] perf record: stop threads in the end of " Alexey Budankov
2020-10-12  9:11 ` [PATCH v1 14/15] perf record: start threads in the beginning " Alexey Budankov
2020-10-12  9:13 ` [PATCH v1 15/15] perf record: introduce --threads command line option Alexey Budankov
2020-10-13 16:20 ` [PATCH v1 00/15] Introduce threaded trace streaming for basic perf record operation Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-10-14 12:15   ` Alexey Budankov
2020-10-14 17:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2020-10-15 10:35   ` Alexey Budankov [this message]

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