From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.90_1) id 1oRbXW-00070X-3l for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Aug 2022 11:46:34 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34642) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oRbXT-0006y7-GS for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Aug 2022 11:46:31 -0400 Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.66]:33411) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oRbXR-0002jy-DV for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Aug 2022 11:46:31 -0400 Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.95) with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1oRbXO-000fGO-MG; Fri, 26 Aug 2022 17:46:26 +0200 Received: from p57bd967e.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([87.189.150.126] helo=[192.168.178.81]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.95) with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (envelope-from ) id 1oRbXO-003D4p-FP; Fri, 26 Aug 2022 17:46:26 +0200 Message-ID: <7412a75d-5541-4f2a-0220-95cbf61c2974@physik.fu-berlin.de> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2022 17:46:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.1.2 Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove HFS support To: Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko References: <20220819135755.vpfkmfyvysmdbzov@tomti.i.net-space.pl> <0F68F479-0EC8-4BF8-B21D-81B5FC725226@physik.fu-berlin.de> <20220819180916.GG2668594@tack.einval.com> Content-Language: en-US Cc: The development of GNU GRUB From: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Original-Sender: glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de X-Originating-IP: 87.189.150.126 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=130.133.4.66; envelope-from=glaubitz@zedat.fu-berlin.de; helo=outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de X-Spam_score_int: -41 X-Spam_score: -4.2 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: The development of GNU GRUB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2022 15:46:32 -0000 Hi Vladimir! On 8/19/22 21:01, Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko wrote: > But booting old machines is still desirable for GRUB. Is there a reason why > HFS is actively bad for modern machines? Especially if it's disabled in case > of lockdown. > > Can I have more details about your security concerns? I may consider rewriting > parts of HFS code to improve it. FWIW, in case you would be really interested on improving the HFS code, it should be no problem to collect some funds in the PowerPC community to financially support that task, e.g. through a Bountysource campaign. We have done this in the past to support similar projects in GCC and LLVM. What do you think? Thanks, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer `. `' Physicist `- GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913