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From: Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, me@ttaylorr.com, vdye@github.com,
	Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/8] ref-filter: ahead/behind counting, faster --merged option
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 14:25:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <74656b93-8c67-ffe3-4aea-4c184345384d@github.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqedpw5se6.fsf@gitster.g>

On 3/10/2023 2:16 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> "Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com> writes:

>> However, '%(ahead-behind:)' computations are likely to be slow no matter
>> what without a commit-graph, so assuming an existing commit-graph file is
>> reasonable. If we find sufficient desire to have an implementation that does
>> not have this requirement, we could create a second implementation and
>> toggle to it when generation_numbers_enabled() returns false.
> 
> At that point, it might make sense to find a way to make the work
> ensure_generations_valid() had to spend cycles on not to go to
> waste.  Something like "ah, you do not have commit-graph at all, so
> let's try to create one if you can write into the repository" at the
> beginning of the function, or something?  Just thinking aloud.

This is a reasonable idea for helping users get out of a slow
situation. Let's see how often this is a problem to see if it
is worth doing that extra work in another series.

> Having read all the patches, I am very impressed and pleased, but
> are we losing anything by having the feature inside for-each-ref
> compared to a new command ahead-behind?  As far as I can tell, the
> new "for-each-ref --stdin" would still want to match refs and work
> only on refs, but there shouldn't be any reason for ahead-behind
> computation to limit to tips that are at the tip of a ref, so that
> may be one downside in this updated design.  For the intended use
> case of "let's find which branches are stale", that downside does
> not matter in practice, but for other use cases people will think
> of in the future, the limitation might matter (at which time we can
> easily resurrect the other subcommand, using the internal machinery
> we have here, so it is not a huge deal, I presume).

I think the for-each-ref implementation solves the use case we
had in mind, I think. I'll double-check to see if we ever use
exact commit IDs instead of reference names, but I think these
callers are rarely interested in an exact commit ID but instead
want the latest version of refs.

The idea of using committish tips definitely changes the
functionality boundary. You are right that we can introduce a
new builtin easily if that is necessary. Even without the
ahead-behind builtin, we are succeeding in reducing the diff
between our fork and the core project.

Thanks,
-Stolee

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-10 19:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-06 14:06 [PATCH 0/8] ahead-behind: new builtin for counting multiple commit ranges Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-06 14:06 ` [PATCH 1/8] ahead-behind: create empty builtin Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-06 18:48   ` Junio C Hamano
2023-03-07  0:40     ` Taylor Blau
2023-03-08 22:14       ` Derrick Stolee
2023-03-08 22:56         ` Junio C Hamano
2023-03-06 14:06 ` [PATCH 2/8] ahead-behind: parse tip references Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-07  0:43   ` Taylor Blau
2023-03-06 14:06 ` [PATCH 3/8] ahead-behind: implement --ignore-missing option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-07  0:46   ` Taylor Blau
2023-03-06 14:06 ` [PATCH 4/8] commit-graph: combine generation computations Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-06 14:06 ` [PATCH 5/8] commit-graph: return generation from memory Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-06 14:06 ` [PATCH 6/8] commit-graph: introduce `ensure_generations_valid()` Taylor Blau via GitGitGadget
2023-03-06 18:52   ` Junio C Hamano
2023-03-07  0:50     ` Taylor Blau
2023-03-06 14:06 ` [PATCH 7/8] ahead-behind: implement ahead_behind() logic Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-07  1:05   ` Taylor Blau
2023-03-09 17:32     ` Derrick Stolee
2023-03-06 14:06 ` [PATCH 8/8] ahead-behind: add --contains mode Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-06 18:26 ` [PATCH 0/8] ahead-behind: new builtin for counting multiple commit ranges Junio C Hamano
2023-03-06 20:18   ` Derrick Stolee
2023-03-06 22:24     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-03-07  0:36   ` Taylor Blau
2023-03-09  9:20     ` Jeff King
2023-03-09 21:51       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-03-07  0:33 ` Taylor Blau
2023-03-10 17:20 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] ref-filter: ahead/behind counting, faster --merged option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-10 17:20   ` [PATCH v2 1/8] for-each-ref: add --stdin option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-10 18:08     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-03-13 10:31     ` Phillip Wood
2023-03-13 13:33       ` Derrick Stolee
2023-03-13 21:10         ` Taylor Blau
2023-03-15 13:37     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2023-03-15 17:17       ` Jeff King
2023-03-15 17:49     ` Jeff King
2023-03-15 19:24       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-03-15 19:44         ` Jeff King
2023-03-10 17:20   ` [PATCH v2 2/8] for-each-ref: explicitly test no matches Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-10 17:20   ` [PATCH v2 3/8] commit-graph: combine generation computations Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-10 17:20   ` [PATCH v2 4/8] commit-graph: return generation from memory Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-10 17:21   ` [PATCH v2 5/8] commit-graph: introduce `ensure_generations_valid()` Taylor Blau via GitGitGadget
2023-03-10 17:21   ` [PATCH v2 6/8] commit-reach: implement ahead_behind() logic Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-15 13:50     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2023-03-15 16:03       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-03-15 16:13         ` Derrick Stolee
2023-03-10 17:21   ` [PATCH v2 7/8] for-each-ref: add ahead-behind format atom Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-10 19:09     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-03-15 13:57     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2023-03-15 16:01       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-03-15 16:12         ` Derrick Stolee
2023-03-15 16:11       ` Derrick Stolee
2023-03-10 17:21   ` [PATCH v2 8/8] commit-reach: add tips_reachable_from_bases() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-15 14:13     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2023-03-15 16:17       ` Derrick Stolee
2023-03-15 16:18         ` Derrick Stolee
2023-03-10 19:16   ` [PATCH v2 0/8] ref-filter: ahead/behind counting, faster --merged option Junio C Hamano
2023-03-10 19:25     ` Derrick Stolee [this message]
2023-03-15 17:31       ` Jeff King
2023-03-15 17:44         ` Derrick Stolee
2023-03-15 19:34         ` Junio C Hamano
2023-03-15 13:22   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2023-03-15 13:54     ` Derrick Stolee
2023-03-15 17:45   ` [PATCH v3 " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-15 17:45     ` [PATCH v3 1/8] for-each-ref: add --stdin option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-15 18:06       ` Jeff King
2023-03-15 19:14         ` Junio C Hamano
2023-03-15 22:41       ` Jonathan Tan
2023-03-15 17:45     ` [PATCH v3 2/8] for-each-ref: explicitly test no matches Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-15 17:45     ` [PATCH v3 3/8] commit-graph: combine generation computations Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-15 22:49       ` Jonathan Tan
2023-03-17 18:30         ` Derrick Stolee
2023-03-15 17:45     ` [PATCH v3 4/8] commit-graph: return generation from memory Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-15 22:58       ` Jonathan Tan
2023-03-15 17:45     ` [PATCH v3 5/8] commit-graph: introduce `ensure_generations_valid()` Taylor Blau via GitGitGadget
2023-03-15 17:45     ` [PATCH v3 6/8] commit-reach: implement ahead_behind() logic Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-15 23:28       ` Jonathan Tan
2023-03-17 18:44         ` Derrick Stolee
2023-03-15 17:45     ` [PATCH v3 7/8] for-each-ref: add ahead-behind format atom Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-15 17:45     ` [PATCH v3 8/8] commit-reach: add tips_reachable_from_bases() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-20 11:26     ` [PATCH v4 0/9] ref-filter: ahead/behind counting, faster --merged option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-20 11:26       ` [PATCH v4 1/9] for-each-ref: add --stdin option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-20 11:26       ` [PATCH v4 2/9] for-each-ref: explicitly test no matches Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-20 11:26       ` [PATCH v4 3/9] commit-graph: refactor compute_topological_levels() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-20 11:26       ` [PATCH v4 4/9] commit-graph: simplify compute_generation_numbers() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-20 11:26       ` [PATCH v4 5/9] commit-graph: return generation from memory Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-20 11:26       ` [PATCH v4 6/9] commit-graph: introduce `ensure_generations_valid()` Taylor Blau via GitGitGadget
2023-03-20 11:26       ` [PATCH v4 7/9] commit-reach: implement ahead_behind() logic Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-20 20:40         ` Jonathan Tan
2023-03-20 11:26       ` [PATCH v4 8/9] for-each-ref: add ahead-behind format atom Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-03-20 11:26       ` [PATCH v4 9/9] commit-reach: add tips_reachable_from_bases() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget

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