From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933365AbXAaX72 (ORCPT ); Wed, 31 Jan 2007 18:59:28 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S933364AbXAaX72 (ORCPT ); Wed, 31 Jan 2007 18:59:28 -0500 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.230]:45546 "EHLO wr-out-0506.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S933365AbXAaX71 (ORCPT ); Wed, 31 Jan 2007 18:59:27 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=S83wKudTKIUZ0CuFWRZ/TOTlhBWdvMK1rp8XS5LYQIrKiPYUP2MLoL2E2Ujh6GGmWWJEKSYxJdgDxvy89zfLWIaeugZXGuEw3OzgEDuG4lwez1osGjLy27Lk2+rgNZEVrTllNvtw8Fb9g/3pNWLL6cu3dvEYyC8qnO5cRqmT8sc= Message-ID: <75b66ecd0701311559u2c1f44f9t685b3054802d9cc3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 18:59:26 -0500 From: "Lee Revell" To: "Theodore Tso" , "Greg KH" , "Nicolas Mailhot" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Free Linux Driver Development! In-Reply-To: <20070131230014.GD20514@thunk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <32793.192.54.193.51.1170248792.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <20070131201258.GB15128@kroah.com> <20070131230014.GD20514@thunk.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: d7a6a5208118ac1b Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 1/31/07, Theodore Tso wrote: > More specifically, Dave said that it "seemed rude" to just take the > driver and send updates, but maybe the best way of dealing with > out-of-tree drivers like lirc is to treat the out-of-tree drivers as a > kind of spec release, and just have someone in the community forcibly > take the code, fix it up, and then get it merged. But if the maintainer is unwilling to work with the kernel developers, the driver won't get bugfixes or updates for new hardware. Lee