From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751401AbeEVOMO (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 May 2018 10:12:14 -0400 Received: from mx3-rdu2.redhat.com ([66.187.233.73]:49834 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751423AbeEVOMK (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 May 2018 10:12:10 -0400 From: Steve Grubb To: Richard Guy Briggs Cc: Stefan Berger , Mimi Zohar , containers@lists.linux-foundation.org, Linux-Audit Mailing List , linux-integrity , LKML , paul@paul-moore.com Subject: Re: [PATCH] audit: add containerid support for IMA-audit Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 10:12:10 -0400 Message-ID: <7716958.jNg3Sb0t5f@x2> Organization: Red Hat In-Reply-To: <20180522134346.b3bm7ndfjjchju3b@madcap2.tricolour.ca> References: <1520257393.10396.291.camel@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20180522134346.b3bm7ndfjjchju3b@madcap2.tricolour.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tuesday, May 22, 2018 9:43:46 AM EDT Richard Guy Briggs wrote: > On 2018-05-21 17:57, Stefan Berger wrote: > > On 05/21/2018 02:30 PM, Steve Grubb wrote: > > > Hello Stefan, > > > > > > On Monday, May 21, 2018 1:53:04 PM EDT Stefan Berger wrote: > > > > On 05/21/2018 12:58 PM, Steve Grubb wrote: > > > > > On Thursday, May 17, 2018 10:18:13 AM EDT Stefan Berger wrote: > > > > > > > audit_log_container_info() then releasing the local context. > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > version of the record has additional concerns covered here: > > > > > > > https://github.com/linux-audit/audit-kernel/issues/52 > > > > > > > > > > > > Following the discussion there and the concern with breaking user > > > > > > space, > > > > > > how can we split up the AUDIT_INTEGRITY_RULE that is used in > > > > > > ima_audit_measurement() and ima_parse_rule(), without 'breaking > > > > > > user > > > > > > space'? > > > > > > > > > > > > A message produced by ima_parse_rule() looks like this here: > > > > > > > > > > > > type=INTEGRITY_RULE msg=audit(1526566213.870:305): > > > > > > action="dont_measure" > > > > > > fsmagic="0x9fa0" res=1 > > > > > > > > > > Why is action and fsmagic being logged as untrusted strings? > > > > > Untrusted > > > > > strings are used when an unprivileged user can affect the contents > > > > > of the > > > > > field such as creating a file with space or special characters in > > > > > the > > > > > name. > > > > > > > > > > Also, subject and object information is missing. Who loaded this > > > > > rule? > > > > > > > > > > > in contrast to that an INTEGRITY_PCR record type: > > > > > > > > > > > > type=INTEGRITY_PCR msg=audit(1526566235.193:334): pid=1615 uid=0 > > > > > > auid=0 > > > > > > ses=2 subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 > > > > > > op="invalid_pcr" cause="open_writers" comm="scp" > > > > > > name="/var/log/audit/audit.log" dev="dm-0" ino=1962625 res=1 > > > > > > > > > > Why is op & cause being logged as an untrusted string? This also > > > > > has > > > > > incomplete subject information. > > > > > > > > It's calling audit_log_string() in both cases: > > > > > > > > https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/security/integrity/int > > > > egrity _audit.c#L48 > > > > > > I see. Looking things over, I see that it seems like it should do the > > > right thing. But the original purpose for this function is here: > > > > > > https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/kernel/audit.c#L1944 > > > > > > This is where it is logging an untrusted string and has to decide to > > > encode it or just place it in quotes. If it has quotes, that means > > > it's an untrusted string but has no control characters in it. I think > > > you want to use audit_log_format() for any string that is trustworthy. > > > > Replacing all occurrences (in IMA) of audit_log_string() with > > audit_log_format(). > > > > > As an aside, I wonder why audit_log_string() is in the API when it is a > > > helper to audit_log_untrustedstring() ? Without understanding the > > > rules of untrusted strings, it can't be used correctly without > > > re-inventing audit_log_untrustedstring() by hand. > > > > > > > > > Should some of the fields from INTEGRITY_PCR also appear in > > > > > > INTEGRITY_RULE? If so, which ones? > > > > > > > > > > pid, uid, auid, tty, session, subj, comm, exe, res. <- these are > > > > > required to be searchable > > > > > > > > > > > We could probably refactor the current integrity_audit_message() > > > > > > and > > > > > > have ima_parse_rule() call into it to get those fields as well. I > > > > > > suppose adding new fields to it wouldn't be considered breaking > > > > > > user > > > > > > space? > > > > > > > > > > The audit user space utilities pretty much expects those fields in > > > > > that > > > > > order for any IMA originating events. You can add things like op or > > > > > cause before > > > > > > > > We will call into audit_log_task, which will put the parameters into > > > > correct order: > > > > > > > > auid uid gid ses subj pid comm exe > > > > > > I'm telling you what the correct order is. :-) A long time ago, the > > > IMA > > : > > :-) Thanks. Was getting confused. > > : > > > system had audit events with the order I'm mentioning. For example, > > > here's > > > one from a log I collected back in 2013: > > > > > > type=INTEGRITY_PCR msg=audit(1327409021.813:21): pid=1 uid=0 > > > auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=kernel op="add_template_measure" > > > cause="hash_added" comm="init" name="01parse-kernel.sh" dev=rootfs > > > ino=5413 res=0 > > > > > > it was missing "tty" and "exe", but the order is as I mentioned. The > > > expectation is that INTEGRITY events maintain this established order > > > across all events. > > > > I am *appending* exe= and tty= now: > > > > type=INTEGRITY_PCR msg=audit(1526939047.809:305): pid=1609 uid=0 auid=0 > > ses=2 subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 > > op="invalid_pcr" cause="open_writers" comm="ssh" > > name="/var/lib/sss/mc/passwd" dev="dm-0" ino=1962679 res=1 > > exe="/usr/bin/ssh" tty=tty2 > > This isn't necessary since they already covered in the already > connected SYSCALL record which duplicates even more information than is > already. My logs don't show any syscall record being attached. Nor should it. This is a simple event that should stand on its own. -Steve