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From: Icenowy Zheng <icenowy@aosc.io>
To: andrew@lunn.ch, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Willy Liu <willy.liu@realtek.com>,
	Jernej Skrabec <jernej.skrabec@siol.net>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-sunxi@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [linux-sunxi] Re: [PATCH] net: phy: realtek: omit setting PHY-side delay when "rgmii" specified
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 22:27:05 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <77AAA8B8-2918-4646-BE47-910DDDE38371@aosc.io> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201025141825.GB792004@lunn.ch>



于 2020年10月25日 GMT+08:00 下午10:18:25, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch> 写到:
>On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 04:55:56PM +0800, Icenowy Zheng wrote:
>> Currently there are many boards that just set "rgmii" as phy-mode in
>the
>> device tree, and leave the hardware [TR]XDLY pins to set PHY delay
>mode.
>> 
>> In order to keep old device tree working, omit setting delay for just
>> "RGMII" without any internal delay suffix, otherwise many devices are
>> broken.
>
>Hi Icenowy
>
>We have been here before with the Atheros PHY. It did not correctly
>implement one of the delay modes, until somebody really did need that
>mode. So the driver was fixed. And we then found a number of device
>trees were also buggy. It was painful for a while, but all the device
>trees got fixed.

1. As the PHY chip has hardware configuration for configuring delays,
we should at least have a mode that respects what's set on the hardware.
2. As I know, at least Fedora ships a device tree with their bootloader, and
the DT will not be updated with kernel. This enforces compatibility
with old DTs even if they're broken.

Personally I think if someone wants a mode that explicitly disable delays
in the PHY, a new mode may be created now, maybe called "rgmii-noid".

>
>We should do the same here. Please submit patches for the device tree
>files.
>
>   Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-25 14:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-25  8:55 [PATCH] net: phy: realtek: omit setting PHY-side delay when "rgmii" specified Icenowy Zheng
2020-10-25 14:18 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-10-25 14:27   ` Icenowy Zheng [this message]
2020-10-25 14:36     ` [linux-sunxi] " Andrew Lunn
2020-10-25 16:51       ` Icenowy Zheng
2020-10-25 17:28         ` Andrew Lunn
2020-10-26  7:44           ` Icenowy Zheng
2020-10-26 12:12             ` Andrew Lunn
2020-10-28  2:46               ` Samuel Holland

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