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From: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>
To: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Yuwei Wang <wangyuweihx@gmail.com>
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, "Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	roopa@nvidia.com, dsahern@kernel.org, 秦迪 <qindi@staff.weibo.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2] net, neigh: introduce interval_probe_time for periodic probe
Date: Tue, 24 May 2022 17:32:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <797c3c53-ce1b-9f60-e253-cda615788f4a@iogearbox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cf3188eba7e529e4f112f6a752158f38e22f4851.camel@redhat.com>

On 5/24/22 12:41 PM, Paolo Abeni wrote:
> On Tue, 2022-05-24 at 17:38 +0800, Yuwei Wang wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 May 2022 at 16:38, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 2022-05-22 at 03:17 +0000, Yuwei Wang wrote:
>>>
>>>> diff --git a/include/net/netevent.h b/include/net/netevent.h
>>>> index 4107016c3bb4..121df77d653e 100644
>>>> --- a/include/net/netevent.h
>>>> +++ b/include/net/netevent.h
>>>> @@ -26,6 +26,7 @@ enum netevent_notif_type {
>>>>        NETEVENT_NEIGH_UPDATE = 1, /* arg is struct neighbour ptr */
>>>>        NETEVENT_REDIRECT,         /* arg is struct netevent_redirect ptr */
>>>>        NETEVENT_DELAY_PROBE_TIME_UPDATE, /* arg is struct neigh_parms ptr */
>>>> +     NETEVENT_INTERVAL_PROBE_TIME_UPDATE, /* arg is struct neigh_parms ptr */
>>>
>>> Are you sure we need to notify the drivers about this parameter change?
>>> The host will periodically resolve the neighbours, and that should work
>>> regardless of the NIC offload. I think we don't need additional
>>> notifications.
>>>
>>
>> `mlxsw_sp_router_netevent_event` in
>> drivers/net/ethernet/mellanox/mlx5/core/en/rep/neigh.c and
>> `mlx5e_rep_netevent_event` in
>> drivers/net/ethernet/mellanox/mlxsw/spectrum_router.c still
>> use `NETEVENT_DELAY_PROBE_TIME_UPDATE` to receive the update event of
>> `DELAY_PROBE_TIME` as the probe interval.
>>
>> I think we are supposed to replace `NETEVENT_DELAY_PROBE_TIME_UPDATE` with
>> `NETEVENT_INTERVAL_PROBE_TIME_UPDATE` after this patch is merged.
> 
> AFAICS the event notification is to let neigh_timer_handler() cope
> properly with NIC offloading the data plane.
> 
> In such scenario packets (forwarded by the NIC) don't reach the host,
> and neigh->confirmed can be untouched for a long time fooling
> neigh_timer_handler() into a timeout.
> 
> The event notification allows the NIC to perform the correct actions to
> avoid such timeout.
> 
> In case of MANAGED neighbour, the host is periodically sending probe
> request, and both req/replies should not be offloaded. AFAICS no action
> is expected from the NIC to cope with INTERVAL_PROBE_TIME changes.

Right, maybe we could just split this into two: 1) prevent misconfig (see
below), and 2) make the timeout configurable as what Yuwei has. Wdyt?

diff --git a/net/core/neighbour.c b/net/core/neighbour.c
index 47b6c1f0fdbb..54625287ee5b 100644
--- a/net/core/neighbour.c
+++ b/net/core/neighbour.c
@@ -1579,7 +1579,7 @@ static void neigh_managed_work(struct work_struct *work)
         list_for_each_entry(neigh, &tbl->managed_list, managed_list)
                 neigh_event_send_probe(neigh, NULL, false);
         queue_delayed_work(system_power_efficient_wq, &tbl->managed_work,
-                          NEIGH_VAR(&tbl->parms, DELAY_PROBE_TIME));
+                          max(NEIGH_VAR(&tbl->parms, DELAY_PROBE_TIME), HZ));
         write_unlock_bh(&tbl->lock);
  }

Thanks,
Daniel

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-05-24 15:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-22  3:17 [PATCH net-next v2] net, neigh: introduce interval_probe_time for periodic probe Yuwei Wang
2022-05-24  8:38 ` Paolo Abeni
2022-05-24  9:38   ` Yuwei Wang
2022-05-24 10:41     ` Paolo Abeni
2022-05-24 14:33       ` Yuwei Wang
2022-05-24 15:32       ` Daniel Borkmann [this message]
2022-05-24 18:07         ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-05-24 19:13           ` Yuwei Wang
2022-05-24 20:53             ` Daniel Borkmann
2022-06-08 15:02             ` Daniel Borkmann

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