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11:34:17 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 14/06/2020 01:03, Finn Thain wrote: > On Sat, 13 Jun 2020, Chris Boot wrote: > >> I no longer have the time to maintain this subsystem nor the hardware to >> test patches with. > > Then why not patch MAINTAINERS, and orphan it, as per usual practice? > > $ git log --oneline MAINTAINERS | grep -i orphan My patch to remove it was in response to: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/yq1img99d4k.fsf@ca-mkp.ca.oracle.com/ >> It also doesn't appear to have any active users so I doubt anyone will >> miss it. >> > > It's not unusual that any Linux driver written more than 5 years ago > "doesn't appear to have any active users". > > If a driver has been orphaned and broken in the past, and no-one stepped > up to fix it within a reasonable period, removal would make sense. But > that's not the case here. > > I haven't used this driver for a long time, but I still own PowerMacs with > firewire, and I know I'm not the only one. I expect that if someone finds this useful it can stick around (but that's not my call). I just don't have the time or inclination or hardware to be able to maintain it anymore, so someone else would have to pick it up. Cheers, Chris -- Chris Boot bootc@boo.tc From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Chris Boot Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2020 10:34:17 +0000 Subject: Re: [PATCH] scsi: target/sbp: remove firewire SBP target driver Message-Id: <7ad14946-5c25-fc49-1e48-72d37a607832@boo.tc> List-Id: References: <01020172acd3d10f-3964f076-a820-43fc-9494-3f3946e9b7b5-000000@eu-west-1.amazonses.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Finn Thain , Chris Boot Cc: linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, target-devel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux1394-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Bart Van Assche , Chuhong Yuan , "Martin K . Petersen" , Nicholas Bellinger , Stefan Richter On 14/06/2020 01:03, Finn Thain wrote: > On Sat, 13 Jun 2020, Chris Boot wrote: > >> I no longer have the time to maintain this subsystem nor the hardware to >> test patches with. > > Then why not patch MAINTAINERS, and orphan it, as per usual practice? > > $ git log --oneline MAINTAINERS | grep -i orphan My patch to remove it was in response to: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/yq1img99d4k.fsf@ca-mkp.ca.oracle.com/ >> It also doesn't appear to have any active users so I doubt anyone will >> miss it. >> > > It's not unusual that any Linux driver written more than 5 years ago > "doesn't appear to have any active users". > > If a driver has been orphaned and broken in the past, and no-one stepped > up to fix it within a reasonable period, removal would make sense. But > that's not the case here. > > I haven't used this driver for a long time, but I still own PowerMacs with > firewire, and I know I'm not the only one. I expect that if someone finds this useful it can stick around (but that's not my call). I just don't have the time or inclination or hardware to be able to maintain it anymore, so someone else would have to pick it up. 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Message-ID: <7ad14946-5c25-fc49-1e48-72d37a607832@boo.tc> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2020 11:34:17 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 14 Jun 2020 21:06:46 +1000 X-BeenThere: linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Bart Van Assche , linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, Chuhong Yuan , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Nicholas Bellinger , target-devel@vger.kernel.org, "Martin K . Petersen" , linux1394-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, Stefan Richter Errors-To: linuxppc-dev-bounces+linuxppc-dev=archiver.kernel.org@lists.ozlabs.org Sender: "Linuxppc-dev" On 14/06/2020 01:03, Finn Thain wrote: > On Sat, 13 Jun 2020, Chris Boot wrote: > >> I no longer have the time to maintain this subsystem nor the hardware to >> test patches with. > > Then why not patch MAINTAINERS, and orphan it, as per usual practice? > > $ git log --oneline MAINTAINERS | grep -i orphan My patch to remove it was in response to: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/yq1img99d4k.fsf@ca-mkp.ca.oracle.com/ >> It also doesn't appear to have any active users so I doubt anyone will >> miss it. >> > > It's not unusual that any Linux driver written more than 5 years ago > "doesn't appear to have any active users". > > If a driver has been orphaned and broken in the past, and no-one stepped > up to fix it within a reasonable period, removal would make sense. But > that's not the case here. > > I haven't used this driver for a long time, but I still own PowerMacs with > firewire, and I know I'm not the only one. I expect that if someone finds this useful it can stick around (but that's not my call). I just don't have the time or inclination or hardware to be able to maintain it anymore, so someone else would have to pick it up. Cheers, Chris -- Chris Boot bootc@boo.tc