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Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9543 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 phishscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 mlxscore=0 malwarescore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2001150001 definitions=main-2002260125 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9543 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 impostorscore=0 adultscore=0 priorityscore=1501 suspectscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 lowpriorityscore=0 phishscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 malwarescore=0 mlxscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2001150001 definitions=main-2002260125 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org +Nishant, Tero On 2/26/20 1:01 PM, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 7:04 PM wrote: >> >> On 2/13/20 8:52 AM, Arnd Bergmann wrote: >>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 9:50 AM Russell King - ARM Linux admin >>> wrote: >> >> The Keystone generations of SOCs have been used in different areas and >> they will be used for long unless says otherwise. >> >> Apart from just split of lowmem and highmem, one of the peculiar thing >> with Keystome family of SOCs is the DDR is addressable from two >> addressing ranges. The lowmem address range is actually non-cached >> range and the higher range is the cacheable. > > I'm aware of Keystone's special physical memory layout, but for the > discussion here, this is actually irrelevant for the discussion about > highmem here, which is only about the way we map all or part of the > available physical memory into the 4GB of virtual address space. > > The far more important question is how much memory any users > (in particular the subset that are going to update their kernels > several years from now) actually have installed. Keystone-II is > one of the rare 32-bit chips with fairly wide memory interfaces, > having two 72-bit (with ECC) channels rather than the usual one > or two channels of 32-bit DDR3. This means a relatively cheap > 4GB configuration using eight 256Mx16 chips is possible, or > even a 8GB using sixteen or eighteen 512Mx8. > > Do you have an estimate on how common these 4GB and 8GB > configurations are in practice outside of the TI evaluation > board? > From my TI memories, many K2 customers were going to install more than 2G memory. Don't remember 8G, but 4G was the dominant one afair. 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charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: "linux-arm-kernel" Errors-To: linux-arm-kernel-bounces+infradead-linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org +Nishant, Tero On 2/26/20 1:01 PM, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 7:04 PM wrote: >> >> On 2/13/20 8:52 AM, Arnd Bergmann wrote: >>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 9:50 AM Russell King - ARM Linux admin >>> wrote: >> >> The Keystone generations of SOCs have been used in different areas and >> they will be used for long unless says otherwise. >> >> Apart from just split of lowmem and highmem, one of the peculiar thing >> with Keystome family of SOCs is the DDR is addressable from two >> addressing ranges. The lowmem address range is actually non-cached >> range and the higher range is the cacheable. > > I'm aware of Keystone's special physical memory layout, but for the > discussion here, this is actually irrelevant for the discussion about > highmem here, which is only about the way we map all or part of the > available physical memory into the 4GB of virtual address space. > > The far more important question is how much memory any users > (in particular the subset that are going to update their kernels > several years from now) actually have installed. Keystone-II is > one of the rare 32-bit chips with fairly wide memory interfaces, > having two 72-bit (with ECC) channels rather than the usual one > or two channels of 32-bit DDR3. This means a relatively cheap > 4GB configuration using eight 256Mx16 chips is possible, or > even a 8GB using sixteen or eighteen 512Mx8. > > Do you have an estimate on how common these 4GB and 8GB > configurations are in practice outside of the TI evaluation > board? > From my TI memories, many K2 customers were going to install more than 2G memory. Don't remember 8G, but 4G was the dominant one afair. Will let Nishant/Tero elaborate latest on this. regards, Santosh _______________________________________________ linux-arm-kernel mailing list linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel