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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Robin Rosenberg <robin.rosenberg@dewire.com>
Cc: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/8] UTF helpers
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:38:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7viqk4z4cv.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200905130724.44634.robin.rosenberg@dewire.com> (Robin Rosenberg's message of "Wed\, 13 May 2009 07\:24\:44 +0200")

Robin Rosenberg <robin.rosenberg@dewire.com> writes:

>> This is ugly.
>
> I told you so. No news.
>
>> Okay, I'll stop here.  You might want to clean up your patch series before 
>> resending.
>
> I also told you why why I stopped working on the patches. The patches are not part of
> a beauty contest and not meant for inclusion as such.

It is rather sad; I suspect that the core of the series is buried in too
much cruft deep enough to discourage many potential reviewers.  I think
the entire series look incoherent because attacking two largely unrelated
things at once.

 (1) Normalizing pathnames internally to UTF-8 and possibly convert it
     back to native upon use (e.g. creat(), lstat(), unlink()) and output.
     As Linus analyzed, this shouldn't be done too early in the callchain
     for performance reasons, but I think your patch would give us a good
     set of starting points to follow where the result from readdir(),
     user input and other things that are pathnames come from and go.

     This part of the patch series was inspiring.  You have to worry about
     gitignore, gitattributes and readlink() vs contents of a blob object
     that records a symbolic link values, which I think either escaped
     analysis people have done so far or being ignored as a small detail,
     but they are important;

 (2) Passing cat-file output through iconv to convert it.

     I think this is unwarranted, even if the object given to cat-file
     happens to be a commit or a tag object and you want to convert their
     messages in native encoding.

     I am not sure what should happen to "cat-file tree", "ls-files" and
     "ls-tree".  The output from these plumbing does show pathnames, but I
     tend to think it is Porcelain's job to turn them into whatever
     encoding they want to use.  So are input to "update-index --stdin",
     but I am still just thinking out loud.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-05-14  4:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-12 22:50 [RFC 0/8] Antique UTF-8 filename support Robin Rosenberg
2009-05-12 22:50 ` [RFC 1/8] UTF helpers Robin Rosenberg
2009-05-12 22:50   ` [RFC 2/8] Messages in locale Robin Rosenberg
2009-05-12 22:50     ` [RFC 3/8] Extend tests to cover locale wrt to commit messages Robin Rosenberg
2009-05-12 22:50       ` [RFC 4/8] UTF file names Robin Rosenberg
     [not found]         ` <1242168631-30753-6-git-send-email-robin.rosenberg@dewire.com>
2009-05-12 22:50           ` [RFC 6/8] test of utf_locallinks Robin Rosenberg
2009-05-12 22:50             ` [RFC 7/8] Convert symlink dest in diff Robin Rosenberg
2009-05-12 22:50               ` [RFC 8/8] UTF-8 in non-SHA1-objects Robin Rosenberg
2009-05-13  0:20   ` [RFC 1/8] UTF helpers Johannes Schindelin
2009-05-13  5:24     ` Robin Rosenberg
2009-05-13  9:24       ` Esko Luontola
2009-05-13 10:02         ` Andreas Ericsson
2009-05-13 10:21           ` Esko Luontola
2009-05-13 11:44             ` Alex Riesen
2009-05-13 18:48         ` Junio C Hamano
2009-05-13 19:31           ` Esko Luontola
2009-05-13 20:10             ` Junio C Hamano
2009-05-13 10:14       ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-05-14  4:38       ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2009-05-14 13:57         ` Jay Soffian

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