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From: Denis Plotnikov <dplotnikov@virtuozzo.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: mreitz@redhat.com, stefanha@redhat.com, den@openvz.org,
	vsementsov@virtuozzo.com, famz@redhat.com,
	qemu-stable@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v0 2/2] block: postpone the coroutine executing if the BDS's is drained
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 15:03:07 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <81346e2a-5ce2-50d3-791e-3cab5e2464d9@virtuozzo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180910124136.GF4901@dhcp-200-186.str.redhat.com>



On 10.09.2018 15:41, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 29.06.2018 um 14:40 hat Denis Plotnikov geschrieben:
>> Fixes the problem of ide request appearing when the BDS is in
>> the "drained section".
>>
>> Without the patch the request can come and be processed by the main
>> event loop, as the ide requests are processed by the main event loop
>> and the main event loop doesn't stop when its context is in the
>> "drained section".
>> The request execution is postponed until the end of "drained section".
>>
>> The patch doesn't modify ide specific code, as well as any other
>> device code. Instead, it modifies the infrastructure of asynchronous
>> Block Backend requests, in favor of postponing the requests arisen
>> when in "drained section" to remove the possibility of request appearing
>> for all the infrastructure clients.
>>
>> This approach doesn't make vCPU processing the request wait untill
>> the end of request processing.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Denis Plotnikov <dplotnikov@virtuozzo.com>
> 
> I generally agree with the idea that requests should be queued during a
> drained section. However, I think there are a few fundamental problems
> with the implementation in this series:
> 
> 1) aio_disable_external() is already a layering violation and we'd like
>     to get rid of it (by replacing it with a BlockDevOps callback from
>     BlockBackend to the devices), so adding more functionality there
>     feels like a step in the wrong direction.
> 
> 2) Only blk_aio_* are fixed, while we also have synchronous public
>     interfaces (blk_pread/pwrite) as well as coroutine-based ones
>     (blk_co_*). They need to be postponed as well.
Good point! Thanks!
> 
>     blk_co_preadv/pwritev() are the common point in the call chain for
>     all of these variants, so this is where the fix needs to live.
Using the common point might be a good idea, but in case aio requests we 
also have to mane completions which out of the scope of 
blk_co_p(read|write)v:

static void blk_aio_write_entry(void *opaque) {
     ...
     rwco->ret = blk_co_pwritev(...);

     blk_aio_complete(acb);
     ...
}

This makes the difference.
I would suggest adding waiting until "drained_end" is done on the 
synchronous read/write at blk_prw
 
                               >
> 3) Within a drained section, you want requests from other users to be
>     blocked, but not your own ones (essentially you want exclusive
>     access). We don't have blk_drained_begin/end() yet, so this is not
>     something to implement right now, but let's keep this requirement in
>     mind and choose a design that allows this.
There is an idea to distinguish the requests that should be done without 
respect to "drained section" by using a flag in BdrvRequestFlags. The 
requests with a flag set should be processed anyway.
> 
> I believe the whole logic should be kept local to BlockBackend, and
> blk_root_drained_begin/end() should be the functions that start queuing
> requests or let queued requests resume.
> 
> As we are already in coroutine context in blk_co_preadv/pwritev(), after
> checking that blk->quiesce_counter > 0, we can enter the coroutine
> object into a list and yield. blk_root_drained_end() calls aio_co_wake()
> for each of the queued coroutines. This should be all that we need to
> manage.
In my understanding by using brdv_drained_begin/end we want to protect a 
certain BlockDriverState from external access but not the whole 
BlockBackend which may involve using a number of BlockDriverState-s.
I though it because we could possibly change a backing file for some 
BlockDriverState. And for the time of changing we need to prevent 
external access to it but keep the io going.
By using blk_root_drained_begin/end() we put to "drained section" all 
the BlockDriverState-s linked to that root.
Does it have to be so?

Denis

> 
> Kevin
> 

-- 
Best,
Denis

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-12 12:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-29 12:40 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v0 0/2] Postponed actions Denis Plotnikov
2018-06-29 12:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v0 1/2] async: add infrastructure for postponed actions Denis Plotnikov
2018-06-29 12:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v0 2/2] block: postpone the coroutine executing if the BDS's is drained Denis Plotnikov
2018-09-10 12:41   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-09-12 12:03     ` Denis Plotnikov [this message]
2018-09-12 13:15       ` Kevin Wolf
2018-09-12 14:53         ` Denis Plotnikov
2018-09-12 15:09           ` Kevin Wolf
2018-09-12 17:03         ` Denis V. Lunev
2018-09-13  8:44           ` Kevin Wolf
2018-07-02  1:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v0 0/2] Postponed actions no-reply
2018-07-02 15:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-07-17 10:31   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-07-16 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] " Denis Plotnikov
2018-07-16 18:59   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " John Snow
2018-07-18  7:53     ` Denis Plotnikov
2018-08-13  8:32     ` Denis Plotnikov
2018-08-13 16:30       ` Kevin Wolf
2018-08-14  7:08         ` Denis Plotnikov
2018-08-20  7:40           ` Denis Plotnikov
2018-08-20  7:42           ` Denis Plotnikov
2018-08-27  7:05           ` Denis Plotnikov
2018-08-27 16:05             ` John Snow
2018-08-28 10:23               ` Denis Plotnikov
2018-09-10 10:11                 ` Denis Plotnikov

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