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Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:4Q561dj5U9mIlI4OMpi0FanEY63ivSVxPdSsC2Y0WKzuZQuzEbY NbD3gLPwfFpsYBckIU9wlzwBaShdK6N+Ks2nzgYbyS8NkVjyHIVbPjWzLJ8wybcpARh5Kf0 wKrE+kZjqzXKtonAOtBnWDVSBawC3LnsUY14NtxjkZwbu536tBdBTvU/fc20XsJ8WNqYgIo etU6ohaDphoHF18WpmFHQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:bdg7FBsHM14=:7Dyi6ovmEo8duxUI1j12ou UOHDowLLFMakSlPUq1BYO71PVabTnMcr9JcNDX0PeCBnHtmw1JveHF5F64sF/SA95EgiUWGDU dozoM3kDyIWfxl2NxNggcQIkuUZx/r/Yf5BH8dtwLVTXINZRF/w1gTW4yCVrObkdYS2+JJm5m KfWGrGy2y8l22eJ/fA8uOG5A5hsE502KSaMFY8ksn5DV5Pwpji4D3jBreyW5i4g8SglzkMuhy vgRBkzarevGqOLKayFDo/N2Ah+ismDefw/y5JaxHO+X1MOjeN3AlbZzI4gq6WhQX0Vf4lKokr JgNybQCJRRg/HzHei1fvySZj1oSs1ZE88vOduLnn7n1Jh82z8iji6sYV8qKT88rp84Qcu0P7V TND5WvvnoPkC2kyjOJzOtfHjHrTVcMC+0QNWa7qx85yAXgUMa3jWsVuEGW/5voTfCVG4G2LwA sbe08GyZ84eFUSyaUfzyB153paYGFF3eBqR1vYqiiSi2t9MJtZvMSSg06k7B5zCxLh2ximJJD xkGFPY1Nj0kGATuPX3usfX/UXrmDn89FU5USWwWS9UM5es7MJgakPDm8WPc8xnZHG2aVS0mEc M2o/UiT+Rwom4IPTPhoJE3VV0kOtrO8hU+BdI8MZvMBOQjaV4fYNMdgKGGsnL+LyJvxleZ+Ld r/wRxMFcip+93Lj6m8Txv7USD8qmofHkF1CXOsaU9JzblnFiYrvDQTCyyWheUbsKaaNn8z/2R XszR/G5zYruNDd6H6HJhrjEngPayQjOc7odFouPL91qtrKb9QBlnLRVgjjRbJevnK3sZcudey owllK85ssb4Ygd3IAelxFyzi+dAEYiD7XvgeDsh+SpjyGzDsPLIVXwt1Ejm0SILMOrYwpJCl1 GeNpJD7WlCxO4aN8l56VrKcmZj70VB0t7pgesh92CBDW8Y2GqFfCluLqU0CHnGoV2YpdNomqW EaqaEhUE+M55iu75uxEn69aO5cabl88plVijKTUNuL8yyzcj2BpYOBjatbjr0jALc09JygpD0 1XFlME9VkLMpl1hUh0iGAOCkMWviyXY8KZYRRR0zldjjMrOc3nRRUs0h0UJRp+S5K9/6MYfcr 2TVeSMSvXyYM8pS7eXFj0cEHKViLHwk/vlk X-BeenThere: u-boot@lists.denx.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: U-Boot discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: u-boot-bounces@lists.denx.de Sender: "U-Boot" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.103.2 at phobos.denx.de X-Virus-Status: Clean On 7/2/21 10:38 PM, Simon Glass wrote: > Hi Tom, > > On Fri, 2 Jul 2021 at 14:11, Tom Rini wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jul 02, 2021 at 12:36:20PM -0600, Simon Glass wrote: >> >>> Avoid enabling the options (EBBR / EFI_LOADER) by default, to save spa= ce. >>> >>> Resync the CONFIG options also. >>> >>> Signed-off-by: Simon Glass >> >> NAK. It's very much intentional that we have EFI_LOADER, and then >> looking ahead, any other options that would be required to be EBBR >> compliant, be enabled by default on platforms that can support them, >> rather than optional. > > As you can tell, I'm not convinced that EBBR is a good idea, even > though I can see it is expedient. Anyway I do appreciate your clear > guidance and direction on this sort of thing and I'm sure many others > = do also. Having a bunch of non-standardized methods to start an operating system is not really compelling. Currently UEFI is the only widespread, operating system independent boot standard. Best regards Heinrich > > Regards, > Simon >