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From: "Pekka Enberg" <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>
To: "Pavel Machek" <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: "Dumitru Ciobarcianu" <Dumitru.Ciobarcianu@ines.ro>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Nigel Cunningham" <nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>,
	"Christian Hesse" <mail@earthworm.de>,
	"Nick Piggin" <npiggin@suse.de>, "Mike Galbraith" <efault@gmx.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Con Kolivas" <kernel@kolivas.org>,
	suspend2-devel@lists.suspend2.net,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Arjan van de Ven" <arjan@infradead.org>,
	rjw@sisk.pl
Subject: Re: suspend2 merge (was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 14:12:50 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <84144f020704260412t56b6db08h9d0d2961158e33fd@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070425081051.GA7221@ucw.cz>

On 4/25/07, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> wrote:
> > Please stop using FUD.
> > Graphical progress it's not in the kernel, even with suspend2.
>
> It was ascii-art, but still 'graphical', last time I checked.

Suspend2 talks to an userspace client via netlink. While I find the
name of the message ("redraw UI") rather appaling, there's nothing
wrong in principle that userspace starts the suspend process and the
kernel keeps feeding back progress information ("I froze all processes
now") so it can display a graphical progress bar.

The real question here is what to do with compression and encryption.
However, if you settle for one compression algorithm (such as LZF in
the case of suspend2) and use the _existing_ in-kernel crypto API for
encryption, suddenly the benefits of userspace suspend are not clear.

As you and Rafael seem to be mostly interested in uswsusp, why don't
we replace the old in-kernel implementation with suspend2?

                                         Pekka

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-04-26 11:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 718+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-13 20:21 [Announce] [patch] Modular Scheduler Core and Completely Fair Scheduler [CFS] Ingo Molnar
2007-04-13 20:27 ` Bill Huey
2007-04-13 20:55   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-13 21:21     ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-13 21:35       ` Bill Huey
2007-04-13 21:39       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-13 21:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-13 21:57 ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-04-13 22:15 ` Daniel Walker
2007-04-13 22:30   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-13 22:37     ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-13 23:59     ` Daniel Walker
2007-04-14 10:55       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-13 22:21 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-13 22:52   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-13 23:30     ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-13 23:44       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-13 23:58         ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-14 22:38   ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-14 23:26     ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-15  4:01     ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-15  4:18       ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-15 23:09     ` Pavel Pisa
2007-04-16  5:47       ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-17  0:37         ` Pavel Pisa
2007-04-13 22:31 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-13 23:18   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-14 18:48     ` Bill Huey
2007-04-13 23:07 ` Gabriel C
2007-04-13 23:25   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-13 23:39     ` Gabriel C
2007-04-14  2:04 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-14  6:32   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-14  6:43     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-14  8:08       ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-14  8:36         ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-14 10:53           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-14 13:01             ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-14 13:27               ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-14 14:45                 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-14 16:14                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-14 16:19                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-14 17:15                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-14 17:29                     ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-14 17:44                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-14 17:54                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-14 18:18                           ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-14 18:40                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-14 19:01                               ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-15 17:55                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-15 18:06                               ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-15 19:20                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-15 19:35                                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-15 19:57                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-15 23:54                                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-16 11:24                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-16 13:46                                           ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-15 19:37                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-14 17:50                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-15  7:54               ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-15  8:58                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-15  9:11                   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-19  9:01               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-19 12:54                 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-19 15:18                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-19 17:34                     ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-19 18:45                     ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-21 10:31                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-21 10:38                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-21 10:45                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-21 11:07                           ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-21 11:29                             ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-04-21 11:51                               ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-19 23:52                     ` Jan Knutar
2007-04-20  5:05                       ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-19 17:32                 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-14 15:17             ` Mark Lord
2007-04-14 19:48           ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-14 20:12             ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-14 10:36         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-14 15:09 ` S.Çağlar Onur
2007-04-14 16:09   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-14 16:59     ` S.Çağlar Onur
2007-04-15 16:13       ` Kaffeine problem with CFS Ingo Molnar
2007-04-15 16:25         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-15 16:55           ` Christoph Pfister
2007-04-15 22:14             ` S.Çağlar Onur
2007-04-18  8:27             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-18  8:57               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-18  9:06                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-18  8:57               ` Christoph Pfister
2007-04-18  9:01                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-18  9:12                   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-18  9:13                   ` Christoph Pfister
2007-04-18  9:17                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-18  9:25                       ` Christoph Pfister
2007-04-18  9:28                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-18  9:52                           ` Christoph Pfister
2007-04-18 10:04                             ` Christoph Pfister
2007-04-18 10:17                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-18 10:32                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-18 10:37                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-18 10:49                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-18 10:53                                 ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]             ` <19a3b7a80704180534w3688af87x78ee68cc1c330a5c@mail.gmail.com>
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2007-04-18 13:05                 ` S.Çağlar Onur
2007-04-18 13:21                 ` Christoph Pfister
2007-04-18 13:25                   ` S.Çağlar Onur
2007-04-18 15:48                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-18 16:07                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-18 16:14                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-18 21:08                       ` S.Çağlar Onur
2007-04-18 21:12                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-20 19:31                         ` Bill Davidsen
2007-04-21  8:36                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-18 15:08                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-15  3:27 ` [Announce] [patch] Modular Scheduler Core and Completely Fair Scheduler [CFS] Con Kolivas
2007-04-15  5:16   ` Bill Huey
2007-04-15  8:44     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-15  9:51       ` Bill Huey
2007-04-15 10:39         ` Pekka Enberg
2007-04-15 12:45           ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-15 13:08             ` Pekka J Enberg
2007-04-15 17:32               ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-15 17:59                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-15 19:00                   ` Jonathan Lundell
2007-04-15 22:52                     ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-16  2:28                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-16  3:15                         ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-16  3:34                           ` Nick Piggin
     [not found]                         ` <b21f8390704152257v1d879cc3te0cfee5bf5d2bbf3@mail.gmail.com>
2007-04-16  6:27                           ` [ck] " Nick Piggin
2007-04-15 15:26             ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-16 15:55               ` Chris Friesen
2007-04-16 16:13                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-17  0:04                 ` Peter Williams
2007-04-17 13:07                 ` James Bruce
2007-04-17 20:05                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-15 15:39             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-15 15:47               ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-16  5:27               ` Peter Williams
2007-04-16  6:23                 ` Peter Williams
2007-04-16  6:40                   ` Peter Williams
2007-04-16  7:32                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-16  8:54                       ` Peter Williams
2007-04-15 15:16           ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-15 16:43             ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-15 16:58               ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-15 18:00                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-16  0:18                   ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-15 16:11     ` Bernd Eckenfels
2007-04-15  6:43   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-15  8:36     ` Bill Huey
2007-04-15  8:45       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-15  9:06       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-16 10:00         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-15 16:25       ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-04-16  5:36         ` Bill Huey
2007-04-16  6:17           ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-17  0:06     ` Peter Williams
2007-04-17  2:29       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-17  3:40         ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-17  4:01           ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-17  3:43             ` [Announce] [patch] Modular Scheduler Core and Completely FairScheduler [CFS] David Lang
2007-04-17  4:14             ` [Announce] [patch] Modular Scheduler Core and Completely Fair Scheduler [CFS] Nick Piggin
2007-04-17  6:26               ` Peter Williams
2007-04-17  9:51               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-17 13:44                 ` Peter Williams
2007-04-17 23:00                   ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-04-17 23:07                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-17 23:52                       ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-04-18  0:36                         ` Bill Huey
2007-04-18  2:39                     ` Peter Williams
2007-04-20 20:47                 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-04-21  7:39                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-21  8:33                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-20 20:36             ` Bill Davidsen
2007-04-17  4:17           ` Peter Williams
2007-04-17  4:29             ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-17  5:53               ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-17  6:10                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-17  6:09               ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-17  6:15                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-17  6:26                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-17  7:01                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-17  8:23                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-17 22:23                         ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-17 21:39                       ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-17 23:23                         ` Peter Williams
2007-04-17 23:19                           ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-18  3:15                         ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-18  3:45                           ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-18  3:56                             ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-18  4:29                               ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-18  4:38                           ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-18  5:00                             ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-18  5:55                               ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-18  6:37                                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-18  6:55                                   ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-18  7:24                                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-21 13:33                                     ` Bill Davidsen
2007-04-18 13:08                                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-18 19:48                                   ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-18 14:48                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-18 15:23                                   ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-18 17:22                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-18 17:48                                       ` [ck] " Mark Glines
2007-04-18 19:27                                         ` Chris Friesen
2007-04-19  0:49                                           ` Peter Williams
2007-04-18 17:49                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-18 17:59                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-18 19:40                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-18 19:43                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-18 20:07                                             ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-18 21:48                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-18 23:30                                                 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-19  8:00                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-19 15:43                                                     ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-21 14:09                                                     ` Bill Davidsen
2007-04-19 17:39                                                   ` Bernd Eckenfels
2007-04-19  6:52                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-19  7:09                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-19  7:32                                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-19 16:55                                                       ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-20  5:16                                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-19  7:14                                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-18 21:04                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-18 19:23                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-18 19:56                                           ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-18 20:11                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-19  0:22                                               ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-19  0:30                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-18 18:02                                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-18 18:12                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-18 18:36                                       ` Diego Calleja
2007-04-19  0:37                                       ` Peter Williams
2007-04-18 19:05                                     ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-18 19:13                                     ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-04-19  3:18                                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-19  5:14                                     ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19  6:38                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-19  7:57                                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-19 11:50                                           ` Peter Williams
2007-04-20  5:26                                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-20  6:16                                               ` Peter Williams
2007-04-19  8:33                                         ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-19 11:59                                         ` Renice X for cpu schedulers Con Kolivas
2007-04-19 12:42                                           ` Peter Williams
2007-04-19 13:20                                             ` Peter Williams
2007-04-19 14:22                                               ` Lee Revell
2007-04-20  1:32                                                 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-04-20  5:25                                                   ` Bill Huey
2007-04-20  7:12                                                     ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-04-20  8:21                                                       ` Bill Huey
2007-04-19 13:17                                           ` Mark Lord
2007-04-19 15:10                                             ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-19 16:15                                               ` Mark Lord
2007-04-19 18:21                                                 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-20  0:17                                                 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-20  1:17                                                 ` Ed Tomlinson
2007-04-20  1:27                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-20  3:57                                             ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-21 14:55                                               ` Mark Lord
2007-04-22 12:54                                                 ` Mark Lord
2007-04-22 12:58                                                   ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-19 18:16                                           ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-19 21:35                                             ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-04-19 22:47                                             ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-20  2:00                                               ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-20  2:01                                               ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-20  5:24                                               ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-19 19:26                                           ` Ray Lee
2007-04-19 22:56                                             ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-20  0:20                                               ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-04-20  5:34                                                 ` Bill Huey
2007-04-20  0:56                                               ` Ray Lee
2007-04-20  4:09                                             ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-24 15:50                                               ` Ray Lee
2007-04-24 16:23                                                 ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-21 13:40                                   ` [Announce] [patch] Modular Scheduler Core and Completely Fair Scheduler [CFS] Bill Davidsen
2007-04-17  6:50                   ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-17  7:09                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-17  7:22                       ` Peter Williams
2007-04-17  7:23                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-17  7:27                       ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-17  7:33                         ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-17  7:33                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-17  7:40                         ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-17  7:58                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-17  9:05                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-17  9:24                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-17  9:57                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-17 10:01                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-17 11:31                               ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-17 22:08                             ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-17 22:32                               ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-17 22:39                                 ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-17 22:59                                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-17 22:57                                     ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-18  4:29                                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-18  4:42                                         ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-18  7:29                                       ` James Bruce
2007-04-17  7:11                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-17  7:21                       ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-17  6:23               ` Peter Williams
2007-04-17  6:44                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-17  7:48                   ` Peter Williams
2007-04-17  7:56                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-17 13:16                       ` Peter Williams
2007-04-18  4:46                         ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-17  8:44                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-19  2:20                   ` Peter Williams
2007-04-15 15:05   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-15 20:05     ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-15 20:48       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-15 21:31         ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-16  3:03           ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-16 14:28             ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-17  3:31               ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-17 17:35                 ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-16 15:45           ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-15 23:39         ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-16  1:06           ` Peter Williams
2007-04-16  3:04             ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-16  5:09               ` Peter Williams
2007-04-16 11:04                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-16 12:55                   ` Peter Williams
2007-04-16 23:10                     ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-04-17  3:55                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-17  4:25                         ` Peter Williams
2007-04-17  4:34                           ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-17  6:03                             ` Peter Williams
2007-04-17  6:14                               ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-17  6:23                               ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-17  9:36                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-17  8:24                         ` William Lee Irwin III
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2007-04-17  8:00                                   ` Peter Williams
2007-04-17 10:41                                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-17 13:48                                       ` Peter Williams
2007-04-18  0:27                                         ` Peter Williams
2007-04-18  2:03                                           ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-18  2:31                                             ` Peter Williams
2007-04-16 17:22             ` Chris Friesen
2007-04-17  0:54               ` Peter Williams
2007-04-17 15:52                 ` Chris Friesen
2007-04-17 23:50                   ` Peter Williams
2007-04-18  5:43                     ` Chris Friesen
2007-04-18 13:00                       ` Peter Williams
2007-04-16  5:16     ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-16  5:48       ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-15 12:29 ` Esben Nielsen
2007-04-15 13:04   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-16  7:16     ` Esben Nielsen
2007-04-15 22:49 ` Ismail Dönmez
2007-04-15 23:23   ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-04-15 23:33     ` Ismail Dönmez
2007-04-16 11:58   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-16 12:02     ` Ismail Dönmez
2007-04-16 22:00 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-16 21:05   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-16 21:21     ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-17  7:56 ` Andy Whitcroft
2007-04-17  9:32   ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-17  9:59     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-17 11:11       ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-18  8:55       ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-18  9:33         ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-18 12:14           ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-18 12:33             ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-18 21:49               ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-18  9:53         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-18 12:13           ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-18 12:49             ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-19  3:28               ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-18 10:22   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-18 15:58 ` CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy (was: [Announce] [patch] Modular Scheduler Core and Completely Fair Scheduler [CFS]) Christian Hesse
2007-04-18 16:46   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-18 20:45     ` CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy Christian Hesse
2007-04-18 21:16       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-18 21:57         ` Christian Hesse
2007-04-18 22:02           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-18 22:22             ` Christian Hesse
2007-04-19  1:37               ` [Suspend2-devel] " Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-18 22:56             ` Bob Picco
2007-04-19  1:43               ` [Suspend2-devel] " Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-19  6:29               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-19 11:10                 ` Bob Picco
2007-04-19  1:52             ` [Suspend2-devel] " Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-19  7:04               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-19  9:05                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-24 20:23                 ` suspend2 merge (was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy) Pavel Machek
2007-04-24 20:41                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-24 20:51                     ` Hua Zhong
2007-04-24 20:54                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-24 21:29                       ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-24 22:24                         ` Ray Lee
2007-04-25 21:41                         ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-26 11:27                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-26 19:04                           ` Bill Davidsen
2007-04-24 21:24                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-24 23:41                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-25  1:06                         ` Olivier Galibert
2007-04-25  6:41                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-25  7:29                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-25  7:48                             ` Dumitru Ciobarcianu
2007-04-25  8:10                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-25  8:22                                 ` Dumitru Ciobarcianu
2007-04-26 11:12                                 ` Pekka Enberg [this message]
2007-04-26 14:48                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-26 16:10                                     ` Pekka Enberg
2007-04-26 19:28                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-26 20:16                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-26 20:37                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-26 20:49                                             ` David Lang
2007-04-26 20:55                                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-26 21:22                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-26 22:08                                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-25  8:48                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-25 13:07                             ` Federico Heinz
2007-04-25 19:38                             ` Kenneth Crudup
2007-04-25  7:23                         ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-25  8:48                           ` Xavier Bestel
2007-04-25  8:50                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-25  9:07                               ` Xavier Bestel
2007-04-25  9:19                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-26 18:18                                 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-04-25  9:02                           ` suspend2 merge (was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: CFS and suspend2:hang " Romano Giannetti
2007-04-25 19:16                             ` suspend2 merge Martin Steigerwald
2007-04-25 15:18                           ` suspend2 merge (was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy) Adrian Bunk
2007-04-25 17:34                             ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-25 18:39                               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-25 18:50                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-25 19:02                                   ` Hua Zhong
2007-04-25 19:25                                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-25 19:38                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-25 20:08                                       ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-25 20:33                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-25 20:31                                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-27 10:21                                             ` driver power operations (was Re: suspend2 merge) Johannes Berg
2007-04-27 10:21                                             ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-27 12:06                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-27 12:40                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-27 12:40                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-27 12:46                                                   ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-27 12:50                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-27 12:50                                                       ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-27 12:46                                                   ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-27 12:06                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-27 14:34                                               ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-04-27 14:34                                                 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-27 14:39                                                 ` [linux-pm] " Johannes Berg
2007-04-27 14:49                                                   ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-27 14:49                                                     ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-27 15:20                                                     ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-27 15:27                                                       ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-27 15:27                                                       ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-27 15:52                                                       ` [linux-pm] " Linus Torvalds
2007-04-27 15:52                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-27 18:34                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-27 18:34                                                         ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-27 15:20                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-27 15:41                                                     ` [linux-pm] " Linus Torvalds
2007-04-27 15:41                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-27 14:39                                                 ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-27 15:12                                                 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-27 15:24                                                   ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-27 15:24                                                   ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-27 15:12                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-27 15:56                                               ` David Brownell
2007-04-27 15:56                                               ` [linux-pm] " David Brownell
2007-04-27 18:31                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-27 18:31                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-07 12:29                                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-07 12:29                                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-25 22:36                                         ` suspend2 merge (was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy) Manu Abraham
2007-04-25 20:20                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-25 20:24                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-25 21:30                                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-25 21:40                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-25 21:46                                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-25 22:22                                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-25 20:23                                       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-25 22:19                                         ` Kenneth Crudup
2007-04-27 12:36                                       ` suspend2 merge Martin Steigerwald
2007-04-25 19:41                                     ` suspend2 merge (was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy) Andrew Morton
2007-04-25 19:55                                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-25 22:13                                     ` Kenneth Crudup
2007-04-26  1:25                                     ` Antonino A. Daplas
2007-04-25 23:33                                   ` Olivier Galibert
2007-04-26  1:56                                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-26  7:27                                       ` David Lang
2007-04-26  9:45                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-25 18:52                               ` Alon Bar-Lev
2007-04-25 22:11                               ` Kenneth Crudup
2007-04-25 19:43                           ` Kenneth Crudup
2007-04-25 20:08                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-25 20:27                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-25 20:44                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-25 21:07                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-25 21:44                                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-25 22:18                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-25 22:27                                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-25 22:55                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-25 23:13                                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-25 23:29                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-25 23:45                                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-26  1:48                                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-26  1:40                                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-26  2:04                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-26  2:13                                               ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-26  3:03                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-26  3:34                                                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-26  2:31                                               ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-26 10:39                                           ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-26 11:30                                             ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-26 11:41                                               ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-26 16:31                                               ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-26 16:31                                                 ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-26 18:40                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-26 18:40                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-26 18:40                                                   ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-26 19:02                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-27  9:41                                                       ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-27 10:09                                                         ` [linux-pm] " Johannes Berg
2007-04-27 10:09                                                         ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-27 10:18                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-27 10:18                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-27 10:19                                                           ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-27 10:19                                                           ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-27 12:09                                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-27 12:07                                                               ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-27 12:07                                                               ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-27 12:09                                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-27  9:41                                                       ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-26 19:02                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-26 18:40                                                   ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-29 12:48                                                 ` [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: suspend2 merge (was: Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)) R. J. Wysocki
2007-04-29 12:53                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-30  8:29                                                   ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-30 14:51                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-30 14:59                                                       ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-01 14:05                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-01 22:02                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-02  5:13                                                             ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2007-05-02 13:42                                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-02 14:11                                                                 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2007-05-02 19:26                                                                   ` ACPI code in platform mode hibernation code paths (was: Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-02 19:26                                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-03 22:48                                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-03 22:48                                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-03 23:14                                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-03 23:14                                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 10:54                                                                       ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 12:08                                                                         ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-04 12:08                                                                         ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-04 12:29                                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 12:29                                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 10:54                                                                       ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-02  8:21                                                             ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: suspend2 merge (was: Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)) Johannes Berg
2007-05-02  9:02                                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-02  9:16                                                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-02  9:25                                                                 ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-03 14:00                                                                   ` Alan Stern
2007-05-03 17:17                                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-03 18:33                                                                       ` Alan Stern
2007-05-03 19:47                                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-03 19:59                                                                           ` Alan Stern
2007-05-03 20:21                                                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 14:40                                                                               ` Alan Stern
2007-05-04 20:20                                                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 20:21                                                                                   ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 20:55                                                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-04 21:08                                                                                       ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 21:15                                                                                         ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-04 21:53                                                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 21:53                                                                                             ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 22:25                                                                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-05 15:52                                                                                             ` Alan Stern
2007-05-07  1:16                                                                                               ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: ...) David Brownell
2007-05-07 21:00                                                                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-07 21:45                                                                                                   ` David Brownell
2007-05-07 22:16                                                                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-09 19:23                                                                                                       ` David Brownell
2007-05-04 21:06                                                                                     ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: suspend2 merge (was: Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 20:58                                                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-04 21:24                                                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-05 16:19                                                                                     ` Alan Stern
2007-05-05 17:46                                                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-05 21:42                                                                                         ` Alan Stern
2007-05-05 22:14                                                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 21:40                                                                                 ` David Brownell
2007-05-04 22:19                                                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-07  1:05                                                                                     ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: ...)) David Brownell
2007-05-05 16:08                                                                                   ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: suspend2 merge (was: Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)) Alan Stern
2007-05-05 17:50                                                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-05 21:43                                                                                       ` Alan Stern
2007-05-05 22:16                                                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-07  1:31                                                                                     ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: ...) David Brownell
2007-05-07 16:33                                                                                       ` Alan Stern
2007-05-07 20:49                                                                                         ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-07 21:38                                                                                           ` Alan Stern
2007-05-08  0:30                                                                                             ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-03 20:33                                                                         ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: suspend2 merge (was: Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)) David Brownell
2007-05-03 20:33                                                                     ` David Brownell
2007-05-03 20:51                                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 14:51                                                                       ` Alan Stern
2007-05-04 14:56                                                                         ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 20:27                                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 22:00                                                                         ` David Brownell
2007-05-05 15:49                                                                           ` Alan Stern
2007-05-07  1:10                                                                             ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: ...)) David Brownell
2007-05-07 18:46                                                                               ` Alan Stern
2007-05-07 21:29                                                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-07 22:22                                                                                   ` Alan Stern
2007-05-07 22:47                                                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-08 14:56                                                                                       ` Alan Stern
2007-05-08 19:59                                                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-08 21:26                                                                                           ` Alan Stern
2007-05-09  8:17                                                                                         ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-09 15:21                                                                                           ` Alan Stern
2007-05-09 19:35                                                                                         ` David Brownell
2007-05-09 20:04                                                                                           ` Alan Stern
2007-05-09 20:21                                                                                             ` David Brownell
2007-05-10 15:17                                                                                               ` Alan Stern
2007-05-09 21:07                                                                                             ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-07 21:43                                                                                 ` David Brownell
2007-05-07 22:41                                                                                   ` Alan Stern
2007-05-03 22:18                                                                     ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: suspend2 merge (was: Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)) Pavel Machek
2007-05-04 14:57                                                                       ` Alan Stern
2007-05-04 20:50                                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 20:49                                                                           ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 21:11                                                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 21:23                                                                               ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 21:55                                                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 21:54                                                                                   ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 22:21                                                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-05 15:37                                                                                       ` Alan Stern
2007-05-05 18:49                                                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-05 21:44                                                                                           ` Alan Stern
2007-05-05 22:36                                                                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-06 22:01                                                                                               ` Alan Stern
2007-05-06 22:31                                                                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-07  1:37                                                                                                 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: ..) David Brownell
2007-05-08  2:57                                                                                                   ` Greg KH
2007-05-07  8:51                                                                                           ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: suspend2 merge (was: Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)) Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 22:12                                                                                   ` David Brownell
2007-05-04 22:31                                                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-05 16:15                                                                                 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-02 13:43                                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-25 22:42                                       ` suspend2 merge (was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy) Pavel Machek
2007-04-25 22:58                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-25 22:43                                       ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-25 23:00                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-25 22:49                                       ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-25 23:10                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-25 23:28                                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-25 23:57                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-25 22:57                                       ` Alan Cox
2007-04-25 23:20                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-25 23:52                                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-26  0:05                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-26  0:14                                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-25 23:51                                                 ` David Lang
2007-04-26  0:38                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-26  2:04                                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-26  2:32                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-26 13:14                                                       ` Alan Cox
2007-04-26 16:02                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-26  0:34                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-26 20:12                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-26  0:24                                           ` Alan Cox
2007-04-26  1:10                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-26 14:04                                               ` Mark Lord
2007-04-26 16:10                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-26 21:00                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-26  7:08                                             ` Andy Grover
2007-04-26  0:41                               ` Thomas Orgis
2007-05-26 17:37                           ` Martin Steigerwald
2007-05-26 20:35                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-26 22:23                               ` Martin Steigerwald
2007-04-26 10:17                       ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-26 10:30                         ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-26 10:40                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-26 11:11                             ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-26 11:16                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-26 11:27                                 ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-26 11:26                                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-26 11:35                                     ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-26 11:33                                       ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-26 16:14                                       ` Chris Friesen
2007-04-26 16:27                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-26 17:11                                         ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-26 15:56                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-26 21:06                                       ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-26 21:12                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-26 13:45                             ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-29 22:44                               ` [PATCH] move suspend includes into right place (was Re: suspend2 merge (was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)) Pavel Machek
2007-06-30  0:06                                 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-26 11:04                           ` suspend2 merge (was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy) Johannes Berg
2007-04-26 11:09                             ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-26 15:53                               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-26 18:21                               ` Olivier Galibert
2007-04-26 21:30                                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-26 11:35                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-26 12:15                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-26 12:41                             ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-18 22:16           ` CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy Ingo Molnar
2007-04-18 23:12             ` Christian Hesse
2007-04-19  6:28               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-19 20:32                 ` Christian Hesse
2007-04-19  6:41             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-19  9:32     ` CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy (was: [Announce] [patch] Modular Scheduler Core and Completely Fair Scheduler [CFS]) Esben Nielsen
2007-04-19 10:11       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-19 10:18         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-26 17:19 suspend2 merge (was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy) Josh Triplett
2007-04-26 17:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-28 19:18   ` Bill Davidsen
2007-04-28 19:15     ` David Lang
2007-04-29  1:04       ` Matthew Garrett
2007-04-29  1:34         ` Josh Triplett

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