In practical terms, the = following would happen. I would remove a) from the website and merge = bits of b) into http://xenproject.org/developers/teams/hypervisor.html

There is no = mailing list or repo impact for both projects, as both do not have = separate lists.

We would probably archive some pages in http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Category:PVOPS - I = would need David and Konrad's help for that. Probably 15 minutes should = be fine. Maybe in fact it may make sense to rename the Category to = Linux.

As far = as I can see, none of the pages in http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Category:XenARM need = to be archived. http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Archived/Xen_ARM_(PV) = is already archived.

We would probably also put together a blog post, once all of = this has been done and maybe put together a press release (up to Sarah = and the Advisory Board).

Any views?

Best Regards

Lars

= --Apple-Mail=_173CEEFF-30DF-47AB-B570-F871235EE114-- --===============5168888430701604439== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel --===============5168888430701604439==-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ian Campbell Subject: Re: Archiving Xen on ARM and PVOPS subprojects Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 12:37:15 +0100 Message-ID: <1429184235.25195.98.camel@citrix.com> References: <8499DCF7-067C-40FD-AB48-586D8F49254B@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <8499DCF7-067C-40FD-AB48-586D8F49254B@gmail.com> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Errors-To: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org To: Lars Kurth Cc: Sarah Conway , Stefano Stabellini , "" List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org On Wed, 2015-04-15 at 17:23 +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: > > According to http://xenproject.org/governance.html we would need to > perform an archivation review. In this case, the situation is quite > clear IMHO and I believe that we do not need to make an extensive > case, besides the one above. So my proposal would be to just have a > committer vote on these. I would be happy if committers and > maintainers listed in a), b) and > http://xenproject.org/developers/teams/hypervisor.html were to just > reply with the usual +1, 0, -1 to this thread. +1 to exorcising Xen ARM PV, it's just confusing and dead. My personal inclination is also that the pvops project is "done" and I would vote +1, but I don't really think it is up to me. If formally I am needed to vote to get things done then I would vote with the majority side of David, Konrad & Boris (who I believe are the 3 current Linux maintainers). Ian. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: David Vrabel Subject: Re: Archiving Xen on ARM and PVOPS subprojects Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 12:45:19 +0100 Message-ID: <552FA0CF.9070701@citrix.com> References: <8499DCF7-067C-40FD-AB48-586D8F49254B@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <8499DCF7-067C-40FD-AB48-586D8F49254B@gmail.com> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Errors-To: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org To: Lars Kurth , "" , Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk , Stefano Stabellini Cc: Sarah Conway List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org On 15/04/15 17:23, Lars Kurth wrote: > Hi all, > > I wanted to make the proposal to archive the following two subproject on > the grounds that they completed their goals > > a) http://xenproject.org/developers/teams/pvops.html I thought this was closed ages ago. +1, but I don't actually have voting rights... > We would probably also put together a blog post, once all of this has > been done and maybe put together a press release (up to Sarah and the > Advisory Board). I don't think we want a press release or anything about closing the PVOPS project -- it's not been relevant for years and should just quietly go. I'll review/update the wiki when I get time. David From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk Subject: Re: Archiving Xen on ARM and PVOPS subprojects Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 14:25:39 -0400 Message-ID: <20150416182539.GC7388@x230.dumpdata.com> References: <8499DCF7-067C-40FD-AB48-586D8F49254B@gmail.com> <1429184235.25195.98.camel@citrix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1429184235.25195.98.camel@citrix.com> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Errors-To: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org To: Ian Campbell Cc: Lars Kurth , Sarah Conway , Stefano Stabellini , "" List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 12:37:15PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: > On Wed, 2015-04-15 at 17:23 +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: > > > > According to http://xenproject.org/governance.html we would need to > > perform an archivation review. In this case, the situation is quite > > clear IMHO and I believe that we do not need to make an extensive > > case, besides the one above. So my proposal would be to just have a > > committer vote on these. I would be happy if committers and > > maintainers listed in a), b) and > > http://xenproject.org/developers/teams/hypervisor.html were to just > > reply with the usual +1, 0, -1 to this thread. > > +1 to exorcising Xen ARM PV, it's just confusing and dead. > > My personal inclination is also that the pvops project is "done" and I > would vote +1, but I don't really think it is up to me. If formally I am > needed to vote to get things done then I would vote with the majority > side of David, Konrad & Boris (who I believe are the 3 current Linux > maintainers). +1 for pvops and +1 for Xen ARM PV > > Ian. > > From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ian Campbell Subject: Re: Archiving Xen on ARM and PVOPS subprojects Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 09:46:51 +0100 Message-ID: <1429260411.25195.198.camel@citrix.com> References: <8499DCF7-067C-40FD-AB48-586D8F49254B@gmail.com> <1429184235.25195.98.camel@citrix.com> <20150416182539.GC7388@x230.dumpdata.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <20150416182539.GC7388@x230.dumpdata.com> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Errors-To: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk Cc: Lars Kurth , Sarah Conway , Stefano Stabellini , "" List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org On Thu, 2015-04-16 at 14:25 -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 12:37:15PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: > > On Wed, 2015-04-15 at 17:23 +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: > > > > > > According to http://xenproject.org/governance.html we would need to > > > perform an archivation review. In this case, the situation is quite > > > clear IMHO and I believe that we do not need to make an extensive > > > case, besides the one above. So my proposal would be to just have a > > > committer vote on these. I would be happy if committers and > > > maintainers listed in a), b) and > > > http://xenproject.org/developers/teams/hypervisor.html were to just > > > reply with the usual +1, 0, -1 to this thread. > > > > +1 to exorcising Xen ARM PV, it's just confusing and dead. > > > > My personal inclination is also that the pvops project is "done" and I > > would vote +1, but I don't really think it is up to me. If formally I am > > needed to vote to get things done then I would vote with the majority > > side of David, Konrad & Boris (who I believe are the 3 current Linux > > maintainers). > > +1 for pvops and +1 for Xen ARM PV With Konrad and David's +1 for pvops my vote is no longer in doubt: +1. Ian. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Stefano Stabellini Subject: Re: Archiving Xen on ARM and PVOPS subprojects Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 14:26:22 +0100 Message-ID: References: <8499DCF7-067C-40FD-AB48-586D8F49254B@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="1342847746-1176947231-1429277182=:7690" Return-path: In-Reply-To: <8499DCF7-067C-40FD-AB48-586D8F49254B@gmail.com> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Errors-To: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org To: Lars Kurth Cc: Sarah Conway , Stefano Stabellini , "" List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org --1342847746-1176947231-1429277182=:7690 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Wed, 15 Apr 2015, Lars Kurth wrote: > Hi all, > I wanted to make the proposal to archive the following two subproject on = the grounds that they completed their goals >=20 > a)=C2=A0http://xenproject.org/developers/teams/pvops.html > b)=C2=A0http://xenproject.org/developers/teams/arm-hypervisor.html >=20 > In the case of a) the goal was to establish Xen support in Linux, which h= as been achieved > In the case of b) the goal was to establish ARM support in the Hypervisor= which has been achieved >=20 > According to=C2=A0http://xenproject.org/governance.html=C2=A0we would nee= d to perform an archivation review. In this case, the situation is > quite clear IMHO and I believe that we do not need to make an extensive c= ase, besides the one above. So my proposal would be to > just have a committer vote on these. I would be happy if committers and m= aintainers listed in a), b) > and=C2=A0http://xenproject.org/developers/teams/hypervisor.html=C2=A0were= to just reply with the usual +1, 0, -1 to this thread. >=20 > In practical terms, the following would happen. I would remove a) from th= e website and merge bits of b) > into=C2=A0http://xenproject.org/developers/teams/hypervisor.html >=20 > There is no mailing list or repo impact for both projects, as both do not= have separate lists. >=20 > We would probably archive some pages in=C2=A0http://wiki.xenproject.org/w= iki/Category:PVOPS=C2=A0- I would need David and Konrad's help for > that. Probably 15 minutes should be fine. Maybe in fact it may make sense= to rename the Category to Linux. >=20 > As far as I can see, none of the pages in=C2=A0http://wiki.xenproject.org= /wiki/Category:XenARM=C2=A0need to be > archived.=C2=A0http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Archived/Xen_ARM_(PV)=C2= =A0is already archived. >=20 > We would probably also put together a blog post, once all of this has bee= n done and maybe put together a press release (up to > Sarah and the Advisory Board). >=20 > Any views? +1 on both counts --1342847746-1176947231-1429277182=:7690 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel --1342847746-1176947231-1429277182=:7690-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Lars Kurth Subject: Re: Archiving Xen on ARM and PVOPS subprojects Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 11:55:42 +0100 Message-ID: <84E46644-64F0-4EE2-B3A8-2CA0F9898E1C@gmail.com> References: <8499DCF7-067C-40FD-AB48-586D8F49254B@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2070.6\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Errors-To: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org To: Jan Beulich , Tim Deegan , Ian Jackson , Keir Fraser Cc: Sarah Conway , Stefano Stabellini , "" List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org Any other votes by committers (in the TO list) before I tally the votes? Regards Lars > On 17 Apr 2015, at 14:26, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > > On Wed, 15 Apr 2015, Lars Kurth wrote: >> [snip] >> We would probably also put together a blog post, once all of this has been done and maybe put together a press release (up to >> Sarah and the Advisory Board). >> >> Any views? > > +1 on both counts From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Tim Deegan Subject: Re: Archiving Xen on ARM and PVOPS subprojects Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 12:08:31 +0100 Message-ID: <20150422110831.GA8704@deinos.phlegethon.org> References: <8499DCF7-067C-40FD-AB48-586D8F49254B@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8499DCF7-067C-40FD-AB48-586D8F49254B@gmail.com> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Errors-To: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org To: Lars Kurth Cc: Sarah Conway , Stefano Stabellini , "" List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org At 17:23 +0100 on 15 Apr (1429118591), Lars Kurth wrote: > Hi all, > > I wanted to make the proposal to archive the following two subproject on the grounds that they completed their goals > > a) http://xenproject.org/developers/teams/pvops.html > b) http://xenproject.org/developers/teams/arm-hypervisor.html +1 to both. Cheers, Tim. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ian Jackson Subject: Re: Archiving Xen on ARM and PVOPS subprojects Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 14:04:54 +0100 Message-ID: <21815.40054.757884.870600@mariner.uk.xensource.com> References: <8499DCF7-067C-40FD-AB48-586D8F49254B@gmail.com> <84E46644-64F0-4EE2-B3A8-2CA0F9898E1C@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <84E46644-64F0-4EE2-B3A8-2CA0F9898E1C@gmail.com> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Errors-To: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org To: Lars Kurth Cc: Keir Fraser , Tim Deegan , "" , Sarah Conway , Stefano Stabellini , Jan Beulich List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org Lars Kurth writes ("Re: Archiving Xen on ARM and PVOPS subprojects"): > Any other votes by committers (in the TO list) before I tally the votes? +1 to both. Ian. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Lars Kurth Subject: Re: Archiving Xen on ARM and PVOPS subprojects Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 16:22:06 +0100 Message-ID: <2CD50435-A90E-471C-9891-D314877F9BE9@gmail.com> References: <8499DCF7-067C-40FD-AB48-586D8F49254B@gmail.com> <84E46644-64F0-4EE2-B3A8-2CA0F9898E1C@gmail.com> <21815.40054.757884.870600@mariner.uk.xensource.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2070.6\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <21815.40054.757884.870600@mariner.uk.xensource.com> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Errors-To: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org To: Ian Jackson Cc: Keir Fraser , Tim Deegan , "" , Sarah Conway , Stefano Stabellini , Jan Beulich List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org > On 22 Apr 2015, at 14:04, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Lars Kurth writes ("Re: Archiving Xen on ARM and PVOPS subprojects"): >> Any other votes by committers (in the TO list) before I tally the votes? > > +1 to both. We had several +1's and no -1's. So this vote carries Lars From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Lars Kurth Subject: Re: Archiving Xen on ARM and PVOPS subprojects Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 17:30:43 +0100 Message-ID: References: <8499DCF7-067C-40FD-AB48-586D8F49254B@gmail.com> <84E46644-64F0-4EE2-B3A8-2CA0F9898E1C@gmail.com> <21815.40054.757884.870600@mariner.uk.xensource.com> <2CD50435-A90E-471C-9891-D314877F9BE9@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2070.6\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <2CD50435-A90E-471C-9891-D314877F9BE9@gmail.com> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Errors-To: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org To: Ian Jackson Cc: Keir Fraser , Tim Deegan , "" , Sarah Conway , Stefano Stabellini , Jan Beulich List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org > On 24 Apr 2015, at 16:22, Lars Kurth wrote: > > >> On 22 Apr 2015, at 14:04, Ian Jackson wrote: >> >> Lars Kurth writes ("Re: Archiving Xen on ARM and PVOPS subprojects"): >>> Any other votes by committers (in the TO list) before I tally the votes? >> >> +1 to both. > > We had several +1's and no -1's. So this vote carries > Lars > Just as a note, I removed the PVOPS and ARM pages from the Developer menu and http://www.xenproject.org/developers/teams.html and merged relevant content into http://www.xenproject.org/developers/teams/hypervisor.html I will do the PVOPS wiki stuff at some point when back from Shanghai Regards Lars