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From: Phil Karn <karn@ka9q.net>
To: Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com>,
	Zygo Blaxell <ce3g8jdj@umail.furryterror.org>
Cc: Paul Jones <paul@pauljones.id.au>,
	"linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Extremely slow device removals
Date: Sun, 3 May 2020 19:09:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <84f76b99-95d0-3c85-0b4d-70298592986b@ka9q.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJCQCtTGg+Rmisw9QAj4SMaDcZ5e_2h_83-3Hjd=FDC5krgjCg@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/2/20 10:48, Chris Murphy wrote:
> In my very limited sample size from a single vendor, I've only seen SD
> Card fail by becoming read only. i.e. hardware read-only, with the
> kernel spewing sd/mmc related debugging info about the card (or card's
> firmware). Maybe that's a good example? I suppose it's better to go
> read-only with data still readable, and insofar as Btrfs was concerned
> the data was correct, rather than start returning transiently bad
> data. However, I only knew this due to data checksums.


I use Raspberry Pis a lot, so I've been forced to acquaint myself with
micro-SD cards. I don't see *that* many failures, but the ones I have
seen are sudden and total, i.e, the card simply doesn't respond anymore.
I think I also saw one suddenly drop to a capacity of 16 MB. Electrical
abuse may have been a factor in some of these failures, in the others
there was no obvious cause.

I do trim them frequently to avoid write amplification.

Phil





  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-05-04  2:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-28  7:22 Extremely slow device removals Phil Karn
2020-04-30 17:31 ` Phil Karn
2020-04-30 18:13   ` Jean-Denis Girard
2020-05-01  8:05     ` Phil Karn
2020-05-02  3:35       ` Zygo Blaxell
     [not found]         ` <CAMwB8mjUw+KV8mxg8ynPsv0sj5vSpwG7_khw=oP5n+SnPYzumQ@mail.gmail.com>
2020-05-02  4:31           ` Zygo Blaxell
2020-05-02  4:48         ` Paul Jones
2020-05-02  5:25           ` Phil Karn
2020-05-02  6:04             ` Remi Gauvin
2020-05-02  7:20             ` Zygo Blaxell
2020-05-02  7:27               ` Phil Karn
2020-05-02  7:52                 ` Zygo Blaxell
2020-05-02  6:00           ` Zygo Blaxell
2020-05-02  6:23             ` Paul Jones
2020-05-02  7:20               ` Phil Karn
2020-05-02  7:42                 ` Zygo Blaxell
2020-05-02  8:22                   ` Phil Karn
2020-05-02  8:24                     ` Phil Karn
2020-05-02  9:09                     ` Zygo Blaxell
2020-05-02 17:48                       ` Chris Murphy
2020-05-03  5:26                         ` Zygo Blaxell
2020-05-03  5:39                           ` Chris Murphy
2020-05-03  6:05                             ` Chris Murphy
2020-05-04  2:09                         ` Phil Karn [this message]
2020-05-02  7:43                 ` Jukka Larja
2020-05-02  4:49         ` Phil Karn
2020-04-30 18:40   ` Chris Murphy
2020-04-30 19:59     ` Phil Karn
2020-04-30 20:27       ` Alexandru Dordea
2020-04-30 20:58         ` Phil Karn
2020-05-01  2:47       ` Zygo Blaxell
2020-05-01  4:48         ` Phil Karn
2020-05-01  6:05           ` Alexandru Dordea
2020-05-01  7:29             ` Phil Karn
2020-05-02  4:18               ` Zygo Blaxell
2020-05-02  4:48                 ` Phil Karn
2020-05-02  5:00                 ` Phil Karn
2020-05-03  2:28                 ` Phil Karn
2020-05-04  7:39                   ` Phil Karn

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