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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
	Anna-Maria Gleixner <anna-maria@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Julia Lawall <Julia.Lawall@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 4/6] timers: Add timer_shutdown_sync() to be called before freeing timers
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 20:54:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8735als462.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221114142858.59682a42@gandalf.local.home>

On Mon, Nov 14 2022 at 14:28, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 20:13:28 +0100
> Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
>> The warning does not buy us anything, unless you want to go and amend
>> all the usage sites which trigger it with 'if (mystruct->shutdown)'
>> conditionals.
>
> The rationale for the warning was that it would let us know what drivers
> need to be fixed for older kernels without the shutdown state. I'm
> perfectly fine in removing the warning. We may just add it to the field
> kernels so that we can know if there's any drivers that have issues that we
> need to look at.

The warning is not guaranteed to catch the subtle cases. It might happen
once in a blue-moon.

I rather argue that (once we agreed on the semantics) we should backport
timer_shutdown() and the fixes which we add to Linus tree. Searching for
potentially problematic places is a job for Coccinelle, though fixing
them needs to have deep human inspection.

Backporting the core code and the corresponding fixes is way simpler
than identifying the problematic cases via the unreliable warning and
then coming up with a per driver solution by sprinkling 'if
(in_shutdown)' conditionals all over the place.

Thanks,

        tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-14 19:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-10  6:41 [PATCH v6 0/6] timers: Use timer_shutdown*() before freeing timers Steven Rostedt
2022-11-10  6:41 ` [PATCH v6 1/6] ARM: spear: Do not use timer namespace for timer_shutdown() function Steven Rostedt
2022-11-10  6:41   ` Steven Rostedt
2022-11-10  6:41 ` [PATCH v6 2/6] clocksource/drivers/arm_arch_timer: " Steven Rostedt
2022-11-10  6:41   ` Steven Rostedt
2022-11-10  6:41 ` [PATCH v6 3/6] clocksource/drivers/sp804: " Steven Rostedt
2022-11-10  6:41 ` [PATCH v6 4/6] timers: Add timer_shutdown_sync() to be called before freeing timers Steven Rostedt
2022-11-13 21:52   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-14  0:11     ` Steven Rostedt
2022-11-14  1:04       ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-14 14:08         ` Steven Rostedt
2022-11-14 18:53           ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-14 19:14             ` Steven Rostedt
2022-11-13 23:18   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-14  0:15     ` Steven Rostedt
2022-11-14  0:33       ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-14 13:36         ` Steven Rostedt
2022-11-14 19:13           ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-14 19:28             ` Steven Rostedt
2022-11-14 19:54               ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2022-11-14 15:42         ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-14 16:04           ` Steven Rostedt
2022-11-14 17:16           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-14 17:50             ` Steven Rostedt
2022-11-14 17:54               ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-14 19:45             ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-24 14:15           ` [tip: timers/core] Bluetooth: hci_qca: Fix the teardown problem for real tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-10  6:41 ` [PATCH v6 5/6] timers: Add timer_shutdown() to be called before freeing timers Steven Rostedt
2022-11-13 22:20   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-10  6:41 ` [PATCH v6 6/6] timers: Update the documentation to reflect on the new timer_shutdown() API Steven Rostedt
2022-11-24 14:16   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Steven Rostedt (Google)

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