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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
To: Justin Capella <justincapella@gmail.com>
Cc: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net, nbd@nbd.name,
	Yibo Zhao <yiboz@codeaurora.org>, John Crispin <john@phrozen.org>,
	lorenzo@kernel.org, rmanohar@codeaurora.org,
	kevinhayes@google.com, Kan Yan <kyan@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 4/4] mac80211: Use Airtime-based Queue Limits (AQL) on packet dequeue
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2020 11:17:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8736awxrku.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMrEMU8FkUkoTB95K8cbBgcrUBPmE0cy6yUcROLTw1_BuSCKuQ@mail.gmail.com>

Justin Capella <justincapella@gmail.com> writes:

>> ieee80211_report_used_skb(). As an optimisation, we also subtract the
>> airtime on regular TX completion, zeroing out the value stored in the
>> packet afterwards, to avoid having to do an expensive lookup of the station
>> from the packet data on every packet.
>>
>> This patch does *not* include any mechanism to wake a throttled TXQ again,
>> on the assumption that this will happen anyway as a side effect of whatever
>> freed the skb (most commonly a TX completion).
>
> I recall a recent patch for ath10k sdio that disabled tx
> acknowledgement for performance gains and am wondering if that will be
> problematic? Presumably not since it would be caught at the dequeue,
> but thought I'd ask-- wondering what the effect of failed tx's or
> block acknowledgement is on this stuff I'll need to study the code
> some more
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-wireless/0101016eb1903db0-ef7063b4-0f42-4a01-8886-327541e6c1a4-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com/T/#t

It looks like that patch will just end up disabling AQL (because packets
will be immediately completed as far as mac80211 is concerned) and
replace it with whatever that credit-based scheme does? No idea how that
will impact latency; you should go ask the developers of that series! As
usual, the patch description only mentions throughput numbers :/

-Toke


      reply	other threads:[~2020-02-27 10:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-19  6:06 [PATCH v11 0/4] Add Airtime Queue Limits (AQL) to mac80211 Kan Yan
2019-11-19  6:06 ` [PATCH v11 1/4] mac80211: Add new sta_info getter by sta/vif addrs Kan Yan
2019-11-19  6:06 ` [PATCH v11 2/4] mac80211: Import airtime calculation code from mt76 Kan Yan
2019-11-22 12:12   ` Johannes Berg
2019-11-22 12:56     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-22 13:00       ` Johannes Berg
2019-11-22 13:11         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-22 13:15           ` Johannes Berg
2019-11-22 14:41             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-22 12:27   ` Johannes Berg
2019-11-22 12:56     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-19  6:06 ` [PATCH v11 3/4] mac80211: Implement Airtime-based Queue Limit (AQL) Kan Yan
2019-11-19  6:06 ` [PATCH v11 4/4] mac80211: Use Airtime-based Queue Limits (AQL) on packet dequeue Kan Yan
2020-02-26 20:30   ` Felix Fietkau
2020-02-26 21:56     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-02-27  8:24       ` Kan Yan
2020-02-27 10:42         ` Felix Fietkau
2020-02-27 11:07           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-02-27 12:00             ` Felix Fietkau
2020-02-27  8:34       ` Felix Fietkau
2020-02-27 10:07         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-02-27 11:34           ` Felix Fietkau
2020-02-27 11:59             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-02-27  9:25   ` Justin Capella
2020-02-27 10:17     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]

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