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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>, "Fam Zheng" <famz@redhat.com>,
	Qemu-block <qemu-block@nongnu.org>,
	"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"Cleber Rosa" <crosa@redhat.com>, "Max Reitz" <mreitz@redhat.com>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <f4bug@amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Require Python 3 for building QEMU
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 05:59:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8736t6wnhv.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181015180130.GO31060@habkost.net> (Eduardo Habkost's message of "Mon, 15 Oct 2018 15:01:30 -0300")

Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> writes:

> On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 05:55:27PM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote:
>> On 15 October 2018 at 17:33, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
>> > Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com> writes:
>> >
>> >> Am 15.10.2018 um 12:02 hat Peter Maydell geschrieben:
>> >> It's easier to port stuff to Python 3 though than making them work with
>> >> both. I think Eduardo's RFC is in part motivated by a patch from
>> >> Philippe that converted something in iotests to work with Python 3,
>> >> passed review and then turned out to break Python 2.
>> >
>> > Seconded.  This is not about the cost of maintaining existing
>> > compatibility gunk, it's about the extra effort to first get the
>> > remainder to work with 2 and 3, only to throw away 2 a few months later.
>> >
>> > I propose we permit ourselves to port stuff that isn't essential to
>> > building QEMU straight to 3 instead.  This includes iotests.
>> 
>> No particular objection, as long as nothing run via 'make'
>> or 'make check' needs Python 3.
>
> Sounds like a good plan for 3.1.
>
> But:
>
>> 
>> I also suspect "a few months" is an underestimate. My guess
>> would be we're going to want to keep Python 2 support for
>> at least the next year, maybe two.
>
> Python 2.7 will die in less than 15 months[1].  I really want us
> to stop reviewing and maintaining Python 2 code in QEMU in less
> than 1 year.  Preferably in less than 6 months.

Seconded.

> [1] https://pythonclock.org/

1 year, 2 months, 15 days, 17 hours, 1 minute, 36 seconds, and counting.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-16  3:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-13  5:02 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Require Python 3 for building QEMU Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-13 14:28 ` Eric Blake
2018-10-13 18:20 ` Max Reitz
2018-10-13 20:36   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-14 11:39     ` Max Reitz
2018-10-15  5:55       ` Markus Armbruster
2018-10-15 11:01         ` Max Reitz
2018-10-15 11:03           ` Max Reitz
2018-10-15  9:32 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-10-15 10:02   ` Peter Maydell
2018-10-15 10:08     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-10-15 10:13     ` Kevin Wolf
2018-10-15 16:33       ` Markus Armbruster
2018-10-15 16:55         ` Peter Maydell
2018-10-15 18:01           ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-16  3:59             ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2018-10-16  8:14             ` Peter Maydell
2018-10-15 18:19         ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-10-15 18:33           ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-15 18:49             ` Christian Borntraeger

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