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From: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
To: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, famz@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	stefanha@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] migrate -b problems
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 13:18:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8737d4hchf.fsf@secure.mitica> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170419111328.GB2099@work-vm> (David Alan Gilbert's message of "Wed, 19 Apr 2017 12:13:37 +0100")

"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com> wrote:
> * Kevin Wolf (kwolf@redhat.com) wrote:
>> Am 18.04.2017 um 16:47 hat Stefan Hajnoczi geschrieben:
>> > On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 11:18:19AM +0200, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>> > > after getting assertion failure reports for block migration in the last
>> > > minute, we just hacked around it by commenting out op blocker assertions
>> > > for the 2.9 release, but now we need to see how to fix things properly.
>> > > Luckily, get_maintainer.pl doesn't report me, but only you. :-)
>> > > 
>> > > The main problem I see with the block migration code (on the
>> > > destination) is that it abuses the BlockBackend that belongs to the
>> > > guest device to make its own writes to the image file. If the guest
>> > > isn't allowed to write to the image (which it now isn't during incoming
>> > > migration since it would conflict with the newer style of block
>> > > migration using an NBD server), writing to this BlockBackend doesn't
>> > > work any more.
>> > > 
>> > > So what should really happen is that incoming block migration creates
>> > > its own BlockBackend for writing to the image. Now we don't want to do
>> > > this anew for every incoming block, but ideally we'd just create all
>> > > necessary BlockBackends upfront and then keep using them throughout the
>> > > whole migration. Is there a way to get some setup/teardown callbacks
>> > > at the start/end of the migration that could initialise and free such
>> > > global data?
>> > 
>> > It can be done in the beginning of block_load() similar to
>> > block_mig_state.bmds_list, which is created in init_blk_migration() at
>> > save time.
>> 
>> The difference is that block_load() is the counterpart for
>> block_save_iterate(), not for init_blk_migration(). That is, it is
>> called for each chunk of block migration data, which is interleaved with
>> normal RAM migration chunks.
>> 
>> So we can either create each BlockBackend the first time we need it in
>> block_load(), or create BlockBackends for all existing device BBs and
>> BDSes the first time block_load() is called. We still need some place
>> to actually free the BlockBackends again when the migration completes.
>> 
>> Dave suggested migration state notifiers, which looked like an option,
>> but at least the existing migration states aren't enough, because the
>> BlockBackends need to go away before blk_resume_after_migration() is
>> called, but MIGRATION_STATUS_COMPLETED is set only afterwards.
>> 
>> > We can also move the if (blk != blk_prev) blk_invalidate_cache() code
>> > out of the load loop.  It should be done once when setting up
>> > BlockBackends.
>> 
>> Same problem as above, while saving has setup/cleanup callbacks, we only
>> have the iterate callback for loading.
>
>
> Yes, and while we have the notifier chain for the source on migration state
> changes we don't have the notifier on the destination.
>
> If we just add a load_cleanup  member to SaveVMHandlers and call all of them
> at the end of an inbound migration would that be enough?
> (And define 'end')

We already have a setup() one, that should be enough, no?
We also need a cleanup() one, that is what I am going to add.

Anything else that is needed for this particular problem?

Thanks, Juan.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-19 11:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-12  9:18 [Qemu-devel] migrate -b problems Kevin Wolf
2017-04-12  9:51 ` 858585 jemmy
2017-04-18 14:40   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-04-18 12:22 ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2017-04-18 14:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-04-18 15:32   ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-19  9:14     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-04-19 11:13     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-04-19 11:18       ` Juan Quintela [this message]
2017-04-19 11:20         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-04-19 11:55           ` Juan Quintela
2017-04-19 12:32       ` Kevin Wolf

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