From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDCC3C47093 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 2021 22:18:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1BA2613BC for ; Tue, 1 Jun 2021 22:18:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S234942AbhFAWUb (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Jun 2021 18:20:31 -0400 Received: from ms.lwn.net ([45.79.88.28]:45034 "EHLO ms.lwn.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S234740AbhFAWU3 (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Jun 2021 18:20:29 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [IPv6:2601:281:8300:104d::5f6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ms.lwn.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 685322CD; Tue, 1 Jun 2021 22:18:47 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 ms.lwn.net 685322CD DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lwn.net; s=20201203; t=1622585927; bh=2yabEFKh//VFd2YJCgm8kIdYA7dygVPkzhE0gMUph+g=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=Jlbp89h1wWR/z2IcJXdvHLvZqr1K4CvjZ0x2CHnKNdYz1j+bk+wiOr70E/iV0aisP HiFoIYsY1gnQVc1L6/IUBPJjBSoagHVJBgG9ZeDSbLqVVBBdX04uP3vSvU88fq964R /PHmI2zV+xDXLvRc49AFNm8DRmw6d/ZBnFQSqHhNNvy5OtHKmmoyCT5l5ivyIyK6ou GXdIvcJJMitrWW93Lu0JEO5cIdRm206bD77WeDFIsWFmBr06+AYXy4hvq/cMxH6qwv dTG06h3QGVAFonL+xLsf6ALDiYM09qlUVMRI1EQHXkDFmj90ytT19MmIJOAYP+2JBR rLJ0iK5ph50XQ== From: Jonathan Corbet To: Samuel Thibault , collins@gene3.ait.iastate.edu Cc: Igor Matheus Andrade Torrente , gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, grandmaster@al2klimov.de, rdunlap@infradead.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] docs: Convert the Speakup guide to rst In-Reply-To: <20210601220643.uzep2ju2zlcmpa57@begin> References: <20210531215737.8431-1-igormtorrente@gmail.com> <875yyxbenm.fsf@meer.lwn.net> <20210601220643.uzep2ju2zlcmpa57@begin> Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2021 16:18:46 -0600 Message-ID: <874keh9qk9.fsf@meer.lwn.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Samuel Thibault writes: > Jonathan Corbet, le mar. 01 juin 2021 12:53:01 -0600, a ecrit: >> I am concerned about one thing, though: the licensing of this document >> is not GPL-compatible, which means we can't build it into the rest of >> the docs. > > ? I see various GFDL-1.1-no-invariants-or-later documentation in > userspace-api/media notably, do they have such build restriction? What > is actually posing problem in the GFDL licence? Those media docs are separate from the rest of the kernel documentation. Other than that, all FDL in Documentation/ was dual-licensed, last time I checked. The problem is that the kernel docs, when built, include a great deal of code and text taken directly from the kernel source. The built docs are thus a derived product of the kernel and the result needs to carry a GPL-compatible license. I've spent some time talking with lawyers about this, and they have confirmed that view of things. This document should not have entered Documentation/ with that license; had I known this was happening at the time, I would have raised a fuss. As a standalone .txt file there is probably no legal problem, but that changes as soon as you bring it into RST TOC tree. >> What are the chances that we can get the authors to agree on a change to >> a GPL-compatible license for this file? > > I don't know about Collins' opinion on this, Cc-ing him with the latest > mail my archives know for him (which dates 2008...) > > The copyright "the Speakup Team" is a more complex thing to look for. Do you have a history of contributors to the file in its previous home? I'm sorry to be obnoxious; I *really* want to see this document converted and in with the rest. But the licensing is something that we need to get right. Thanks, jon